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Complaint Review: Showcase Honda - Phoenix Arizona
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1500 East Camelback Rd. Phoenix, 85014 Arizona, U.S.A.
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Showcase Honda misleading dishonest and likely fraudulent car sale transactions, bogus contracts liars Phoenix Arizona
I went to Showcase Honda with my wife to purchase a vehicle, after many hours of constant waiting for what now seems but a tactic to make people unable to really be alert for the con games.
After picking a Chevy Cavalier to purchase and being told that the interest rate would be 24%, not surprising due to financing post bankruptcy discharge. We got finally after too many hours to the finance office, where we told the payment amount and most all focus at this point was on the payment amount.
The finance manager then tried to upsell on the usuals, Extended Warranty, Roadside Assistance, and Gap Coverage. At no time did we ever discuss the following; automate??? what the heck is this crap $200, Theftguard $599.
We specifically said we do not want any upsell products at all, we explained we have roadside assistance and have no need for it. However the finance manager/ salesman was persistent in suggesting that he could lower the price of the gap since I expressed some interest in that, so he said he'd drop the rate to 23% so that the payments would still be low and drop the cost of the Gap Insurance coverage to $400. He never indicated that he was including other items such as Automate, TheftGuard, and Roadside Assistance all extra items totalling approximately $1000.00.
We left the office late in the evening and went home. At a later date when United Auto Lenders called to verify the contract, I reviewed it, and that's when I noticed the extra's that somehow did not seem to be there when the paperwork was signed. Not sure if we have a signed contract here, that was actually signed, something extremely fishy here. Interestingly they have cameras in the signing room that they supposedly record people during signing so they can't lie. I wonder why this is, now I actually would like to subpoena the videotape to see the truth, however I doubt they actually taped anything and believe it's a ruse.
When we went to the dealership to confront the GM which we didn't speak to, we had salesman act like everything was going to be worked out and corrected, then they had us sit and wait, and then bring a business manager, who after explaining the situation, he explained that the extra's are on the contract because they are part of the package with the Gap Coverage and he explains that is how the rate was bought down. Excuse me, no one ever said anything about paying junk fees, and paying for things you have no need for so that you could drop your rate. That is pathetic, I then told the business manager he should go online and notice that there seems to be others that have had problems with Showcase Honda, told him to go to RipOffReport.com and that he should reimburse monies for what should not have been in the contract, which he absolutely refused, and then when I said I should stand on the corner with a sign stating don't do business with Showcase Honda his reaction was to say, "well you'd just be making a fool out of yourself," I made sure as I walked out that I was loud and clear of what a ripoff Showcase is.
I am looking for others with the same scenario, especially those with poor to fair credit who got stroked at Showcase Honda, I want to make a case to their lenders not to do business with them, I want to contact the Arizona Dealer Board, I want to contact the AZ Attorney General, FTC, Arizona Banking Commission, and every agency to dig into this piece of crap no good, dishonest dealership, where they are sitting around joking how they can screw people with poor credit that are actually trying to reestablish their credit and not giving a d**n about them.
Showcase Honda deserves their own medicine. I Pray to God that Showcase Honda losers their auto dealer license and loses every lender.
Down with Showcase, they are pitiful in my eyes. By the way the preceding is me stating my Free Speech Opinion. Again, Showcase Honda in my opinion are despicable thieves. I am talking about you Showcase Honda Phoenix Arizona.
Andrew
Phoenix, Arizona
U.S.A.
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After picking a Chevy Cavalier to purchase and being told that the interest rate would be 24%, not surprising due to financing post bankruptcy discharge. We got finally after too many hours to the finance office, where we told the payment amount and most all focus at this point was on the payment amount.
The finance manager then tried to upsell on the usuals, Extended Warranty, Roadside Assistance, and Gap Coverage. At no time did we ever discuss the following; automate??? what the heck is this crap $200, Theftguard $599.
We specifically said we do not want any upsell products at all, we explained we have roadside assistance and have no need for it. However the finance manager/ salesman was persistent in suggesting that he could lower the price of the gap since I expressed some interest in that, so he said he'd drop the rate to 23% so that the payments would still be low and drop the cost of the Gap Insurance coverage to $400. He never indicated that he was including other items such as Automate, TheftGuard, and Roadside Assistance all extra items totalling approximately $1000.00.
We left the office late in the evening and went home. At a later date when United Auto Lenders called to verify the contract, I reviewed it, and that's when I noticed the extra's that somehow did not seem to be there when the paperwork was signed. Not sure if we have a signed contract here, that was actually signed, something extremely fishy here. Interestingly they have cameras in the signing room that they supposedly record people during signing so they can't lie. I wonder why this is, now I actually would like to subpoena the videotape to see the truth, however I doubt they actually taped anything and believe it's a ruse.
When we went to the dealership to confront the GM which we didn't speak to, we had salesman act like everything was going to be worked out and corrected, then they had us sit and wait, and then bring a business manager, who after explaining the situation, he explained that the extra's are on the contract because they are part of the package with the Gap Coverage and he explains that is how the rate was bought down. Excuse me, no one ever said anything about paying junk fees, and paying for things you have no need for so that you could drop your rate. That is pathetic, I then told the business manager he should go online and notice that there seems to be others that have had problems with Showcase Honda, told him to go to RipOffReport.com and that he should reimburse monies for what should not have been in the contract, which he absolutely refused, and then when I said I should stand on the corner with a sign stating don't do business with Showcase Honda his reaction was to say, "well you'd just be making a fool out of yourself," I made sure as I walked out that I was loud and clear of what a ripoff Showcase is.
I am looking for others with the same scenario, especially those with poor to fair credit who got stroked at Showcase Honda, I want to make a case to their lenders not to do business with them, I want to contact the Arizona Dealer Board, I want to contact the AZ Attorney General, FTC, Arizona Banking Commission, and every agency to dig into this piece of crap no good, dishonest dealership, where they are sitting around joking how they can screw people with poor credit that are actually trying to reestablish their credit and not giving a d**n about them.
Showcase Honda deserves their own medicine. I Pray to God that Showcase Honda losers their auto dealer license and loses every lender.
Down with Showcase, they are pitiful in my eyes. By the way the preceding is me stating my Free Speech Opinion. Again, Showcase Honda in my opinion are despicable thieves. I am talking about you Showcase Honda Phoenix Arizona.
Andrew
Phoenix, Arizona
U.S.A.
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3 Updates & Rebuttals
Dave
Jacksonville,Florida,
U.S.A.
Don't even listen to R, Andrew
#2Consumer Comment
Mon, October 10, 2005
This idiot just appeared out of nowhere. He is a slime who thinks he is holier than the Pope. Just read some of his ridiculous rebuttals. It's always your fault. He doesn't deserve the energy it takes to type a response to that moron. Obviously R is a total waste of human life. As for your problem, I did go thru what you did, many years ago, and had the same problems. The trick is NEVER leave the dealership without paperwork that you have signed, and never believe them when they say you can take the car back in a few days... it just isn't true. I don't think you have any recourse, you signed the deal and basically that's that. Picketing the place could help recap your unwanted fees though, but I think you need to get permission from the local police to do that. Good luck.
Andrew
Phoenix,Arizona,
U.S.A.
Hey Idiot,, Apparently you want to allow car dealers to be misleading and dishonest.
#3Author of original report
Sat, October 08, 2005
You are an idiot. Apparently you want to allow car dealers to be misleading and dishonest. I can only believe that somehow you benefit yourself off of dishonesty, and ignore what's at issue. First of all, I wasn't the one who purchased this vehicle and accepted this interest rate. It was my wife who purchased the vehicle. But rather than get into the diversion story of why we accepted this interest rate and purchased this vehicle is moot. By the way if you want to reestablish a car history after a bankruptcy and you don't have much cash to put down, and you need a half decent car, then likely this is the route you go. You are an idiot if you think the car was purchased with the intent for long term ownership. The car payments will be paid current over several months to reestablish the credit and then get a much better deal, likely a 2.9% American Honda new interest rate. If you think that's not likely well I know for a fact you are wrong. Or the car will be paid off in full long before the long amortization sets in, again mr. idiot, pro ripoff dealership's. I guess that you would just be happy as hell to find out after you signed a contract that the contract that was handed to you in an envelope was not the actual contract that you reviewed, but oh well Mr. Idiot you are stuck with it, and oh well you shouldn't complain because then someone might say well how stupid you were for that purchase. Go to hell with your ripoff support of a dishonest dealership.
R
Aloha,Oregon,
U.S.A.
Next time
#4Consumer Comment
Sat, October 08, 2005
Why were you financing a piece of crap Cavalier at 23% after a BK? You've proven you're not responsible enough to pay your obligations. Most likely, you'll still owe money on this car long after it's been sent to the junkyard. Next time you go bankrupt and need a car (and that should be within the next 24 months) find yourself a 12-14 year old Civic or Corolla. Pay cash for it. You'll have no payments and either one will long oulast a 2-3 year old Cavalier with some minimal care.
