Placed my order back in August, and wished I would have read all the complaints about their deceptive business practices because I would have never ordered from them , got a ship date of no later than Nov 20 2015 wrote them and made them aware of all the complaints against them and expressed that I would be expecting it by then. Low and behold I get a e-mail stating due to volume it now would be Dec 21 2015. Sounds like a pyrimade scheme to me where they play the market with costumers money. I am writing the attorney Generals office in Washington State and file a complaint and urge others to do so. Do not do business with Northwest Territorial Mint.