Complaint Review: First Capital Consumers Group - US Ontario

Monday, November 11, 2002

Dear Victim,

Rip-off Report.com recently learned that First Capitol Consumers Group (FCCG) & US Guardian were shut down. Unfortunately, this means that we will not be able to process the last 633 names that we were previously negotiating for. Sadly, we knew this was coming sooner or later, but we were unable to inform you because we feared that doing so would adversely affect the governmental investigation.

REFUNDS WILL NOW BE HANDLED BY THE FTC BECAUSE ALL FCCG ASSETS WERE FROZEN BY THE GOVERNMENT. ADDITIONALLY, MANY OF THOSE INVOLVED WITH FCCG WERE ARRESTED AND JAILED .

There is good news; the FTC was successful in freezing the bank accounts, and other various assets in the possession of FCCG. This means that the FTC will now be in charge of refunding your money. Although this matter is now out of our hands, we are hopeful that they will be reimbursing all of you that were victimized! However, it appears that they will be issuing refunds on a pro-rated basis; meaning that you will probably not be getting a full refund. There is a slight chance that you will get a full refund, but you should not count on it. We estimate that victims will receive between 70-90% of the amount lost. Unfortunately, they will most likely not be reimbursing any of the long distance phone charges you racked up; not knowing you were making international calls to Canada!

HOW TO GET YOUR REFUND THROUGH THE FTC

The FTC told us to contact the remaining consumers who were on our victim list, or had recently filed a Rip-off Report. They asked us to instruct you to now file your complaints with the FTC via the FTC's website, www.ftc.gov, or via telephone by calling toll-free (877) FTC-HELP. FTC investigators have informed Rip-off Report that this will be a quick process, and that pro-rated refunds will be issued shortly.

To date, about 1,050 consumers have received a full refund through us at here Rip-off Report, and we are very proud of this accomplishment. We are also thrilled that we were able to directly affect the lives of so many innocent consumers in a positive way. Unfortunately, it has now come to and end, but we knew that this was eventually going happen; we just did not know when.

This has been a very time consuming and thankless job, but still rewarding! Knowing that we tried our best and helped so many, makes us very happy. However, we are truly sorry that we were not able to get everyone a refund. Even though our success has ended in this venture has ended, we do promise to continue working for unsatisfied customers and victims far into the future.

In closing, we would like to thank the many victims for their thoughtful e-mails thanking us, letting us know how much they appreciate our endless hours of efforts. If it were not for the thoughtful, and appreciative emails that we received from so many of you, our job would have been much more difficult. So thank-you for inspiring us, and giving us a reason to fight!

ED Magedson and M. Steven Papi -Investigative Reporter
[email protected]
bad businessbureau.com
www.ripoffreport.com

We are not lawyers.
We are not a collection agency.

We are Consumer Advocates.
...the victims' advocate

WE are Civil and Human Rights Activists

We are a Nationwide Consumer Reporting News Agency
...by consumers, for consumers

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Make sure they make the Rip-off Report.

Thanks for ALL your efforts. My $199.00 refund showed up in my account on Monday 8/6. What a great surprise.

Thanks Again - John

Thank you ripoff report for getting me my refund.I couldn't believe my eyes when I checked my bank statement this morning and there it was. Keep up the good work.

Its hard to believe these scammers are still at it--go figure.

Pat
Crossville, TN

Thank you so much for getting the refund for me.

I no longer trust anyone on the phone. I will not fall for anything like this again.I am just thankful that there are still people like the Rip-off Report consumer advocates to help people like me.

Thank you so much for getting the refund for me.

I no longer trust anyone on the phone. I will not fall for anything like this again.I am just thankful that there are still people like the Rip-off Report consumer advocates to help people like me.

Thank you so much for getting the refund for me.

I no longer trust anyone on the phone. I will not fall for anything like this again.I am just thankful that there are still people like the Rip-off Report consumer advocates to help people like me.

NOTICE:
***Many people have already received their refunds.
If you have not received your refund after 30 days that you E-mailed us your infomation, please send us your full name and what you are still owed, answering all the questions above.

We submit the names for refunds in groups of 100 or more.

Dealing with First Capital Consumers Group has been a very time consuming process for us. Please refrain from e-mailing us, asking when you will receive your refund. Please be patient.
Please notify us when your money haas been returned to your account.

NOTICE: We are not sure how much longer they will be accepting names for refunds.

Dear First Capital Consumers Group victims,

If you used a phony name when filing a report OR if you filed for a friend/relative, you will not receive refund.

This is, UNLESS you send us an email titled "Filed report w/ incorrect name Re: First Capital Consumers Group".

In this email, let us know what name you used when filing your Rip-off Report, & what name you did use when signing up with First Capital Consumers Group. We will then forward that name on for refund processing. The reason we are bringing this up is because only 11 of the first 15 names processed could be identified as First Capital Customers Group customers / victims.

In addition, many First Capital victims are just emailing us their information without filing a Rip-Off report. Out if courtesy, we will forward many of those names on for refund processing, but we ask that you file a Rip-Off report before emailing us. Rip-Off reports help to build a larger working history on the company, it making a better case for the authorities, and more importantly, this will help other consumer's who come to the Rip-off Report. Filing a Rip-Off report is not a difficult process, and it is free. The personal information you do provide is strictly confidential!

Finally, we want to let everyone know that we are sending the refund demands over to the company in groups. This means that some of you will have your refund by tomorrow, while many of you will not see the money for another week or 2. Many of you have already received your refund.

We just ask that you let us know when you get your refund so that we can update our system. Please title your e-mail: I Got my First Capital Consumers Group REFUND (with your name).

Sincerely,

ED Magedson
[email protected]
badbusinessbureau.com
www.ripoffreport.com

Don't let them get away with it.
Make sure they make the Rip-off Report!

We are not lawyers.
We are not a collection agency.

We are Consumer Advocates.
...the victims' advocate

WE are Civil and Human Rights Activists

We are a Nationwide Consumer Reporting News Agency
...by consumers, for consumers

Remember.
Don't let them get away with it!
Make sure they make the Rip-off Report.

I WAS ABOUT TO LET THIS SAD MISTAKE HAPPEN TO ME ALSO FIRST CAPITOL CONTACTED ME LAST WEEK MS.DAVIS CALLED ONICKA WILLIAMS ALSO CALLED CHRIS ALSO TIMOTHY TO SAY THEY WERE GOING TO GIVE ME A CREDIT CARD WITH A 2000 CREDIT LIMIT ALSO ANOTHER ONE WITH A 2500 LIMIT THE NUMBER I CALLED TO CANCEL WAS 1-416-488-4664 THE REASON I AM PUTTING THEM ON BLAST BECAUSE IT MIGHT HELP SOMEONE ELSE I WILL GO TO THE BANK TO CANCEL TRANSACTION BUT THANKS FOR THIS HELPFUL INFO...

Refunds could be issued as early as today through Friday.
Send us your information. Refunds

ED Magedson
[email protected]

MUCH GRATITUDE GOES OUT TO YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS IN GETTING REFUNDS OUT TO THESE PEOPLE! I KNOW IT TOOK A LOT OF TIME, AND HARD WORK! CONGRATULATIONS RIPOFF REPORT!

The email sent out today by BADbusinessbureau.com and this Report above is 100% accurate. The RipOffReport spent countless man hours negotiating with First Capital and their ACH processor in an effort to arrange for the return of your money.

To the best of our knowledge, and according to what RipOffReport was promised, unhappy First Capital Consumers will receive a refund as long they follow the directions in the email.

If this falls through, you only have First Capital to blame. The RipOffReport worked very hard to make this arrangement behalf of consumers.!

ED Magedson
[email protected]

The email sent out today by BADbusinessbureau.com and this Report above is 100% accurate. The RipOffReport spent countless man hours negotiating with First Capital and their ACH processor in an effort to arrange for the return of your money.

To the best of our knowledge, and according to what RipOffReport was promised, unhappy First Capital Consumers will receive a refund as long they follow the directions in the email.

If this falls through, you only have First Capital to blame. The RipOffReport worked very hard to make this arrangement behalf of consumers.!

ED Magedson
[email protected]

The email sent out today by BADbusinessbureau.com and this Report above is 100% accurate. The RipOffReport spent countless man hours negotiating with First Capital and their ACH processor in an effort to arrange for the return of your money.

To the best of our knowledge, and according to what RipOffReport was promised, unhappy First Capital Consumers will receive a refund as long they follow the directions in the email.

If this falls through, you only have First Capital to blame. The RipOffReport worked very hard to make this arrangement behalf of consumers.!

ED Magedson
[email protected]

We have sent everyone's first and last name to the company that is the clearing house for First Capital Consumers Credit. We could only go by the first and last name you used when filing your Rip-off Report.

If you did not give us your correct spelling of your name, you need to still answer the questions above.

HOW WILL YOU WILL GET YOUR REFUND?
If you had e-mailed us or filed a Rip-off Report against First Capital Credit, you will see your credit card or bank account credited in a few days.

If you closed your account, notify your bank that a credit is being issued. Ask them how they want to handle this with you?

We ask that you notify us by e-mail, with your correct spelling of your name, when you have received your full refund.

NOTICE:
***Over 600 consumers have already received their refunds.
If you have not received your refund after 30 days of sending us your infomation, please send us your full name and what you are still owed, answering all the questions above.

We submit the names for refunds in groups of 100 or more.

Dealing with First Capital Consumers Group has been a very time consuming process for us. Please refrain from e-mailing us, asking when you will receive your refund. Please be patient.
Please notify us when your money haas been returned to your account.

NOTICE: We are not sure how much longer they will be accepting names for refunds. DON'T DELAY!

ED Magedson
[email protected]
badbusinessbureau.com

We are not lawyers.
We are not a collection agency.

We are Consumer Advocates.
...the victims' advocate

WE are Civil and Human Rights Activists

We are a Nationwide Consumer Reporting News Agency
...by consumers, for consumers

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Remember.
Don't let them get away with it!
Make sure they make the Rip-off Report.