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  • Report:  #1500576

Complaint Review: Thermodyne Systems - Quartz Hill California

Reported By:
Unhappy Camper - Undisclosed, Colorado, United States
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Thermodyne Systems
Quartz Hill, California, United States
Phone:
661-609-7902
Web:
http://hydrogenappliances.com/
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Purchased a 2200 Watt tilting wind turbine from Thermodyne after several telephone conversations with Bob Greene, Owner/Manager.  Paid $943.00 for the system.  The number of blades (7) and generator core (48V Max Core PMA) were recommeded by Bob Greene at Thermodyne based upon local winds and our high elevation. It was installed correctly acccording to printed and online video instructions provided. A circuit breaker was also installed for this turbine, as recomended.  Moreover I used 8 gauge, 3 wire SO Cable for added safety against twisting and voltage drop (only 10 gauge was recommended). 

Within two days the mast-mounted roller-skate-wheel support for the turbine slid down, preventing the turbine from turning on it's mast.  I called Bob Greene, who suggested I did not tighten it enough and to add some RTV silicone to the mounting so that it would stick better. I did this according to his instructions. While re-tightening the bracket, a grade 3 carriage bolt supplied with it snapped. Replaced this with a grade 8 bolt, nut, washer.  While tightening, the bracket metal distorted, but this was necessary in order to hold the 60 lb turbine up off the top of the mast.  So much for that.

Three days later we had a early winter storm blow through with 50 mph straight-line winds. The turbine was turning violently on its mast in all directions.  As designed, the turbine did tilt in the high winds.  However, it also lifted up completely off the top of the mast and sat atop the mast at an angle, unable to turn in the wind. It also would no longer tilt. This resulted in overspinning of the blades, arching and melting of the 8-gauge wiring at the turbine. The sheet-metal fuselage was bent by the wind at nearly a 45 degree angle. Upon further inspection, the steel nut for the threaded cable clamp that mounts to the turbine body sheared completely off.

I spoke with Bob Greene at Thermodyne. The conversation was calm, kind and cordial.  Mr. Greene suggested that a tornado caused the damage. We don't get tornadoes in our alpine valley in Colorado at 8000 feet and no tornadoes were recorded for this event. Then he suggested that a microburst caused the damage. I replied that microbursts are downdraft features, not updraft weather occurrences. I asked as to warranty for the damage and he indicated that a warranty would not apply for wind damage, only for defects in materials.  Before we could go further into conversation, the phone disconnected. Mr. Greene did not call me back and has not answered the phone since in the several times I have attempted to call him back.

I was initially impressed with the quality of the turbine materials.  However, there now appear to be some design flaws that make it a substantial financial risk to anyone purchasing this turbine.  A turbine should NEVER be able to lift itself off of the top of a mast, no matter how high the winds get.  A wheeled support system should have a bracket that is strong enough to hold the turbine up without modification. But more than this, this turbine should be able to withstand a 50 mph sustained wind. Even if Thermodyne does not warrant damage caused by wind (which does not follow for a product that OPERATES in the wind), then surely it will respond to a suit or claim against it for loss due to defects in design/workmanship; which is where I am headed next if Thermodyne does not answer my call very soon. I am a repeat customer who paid nearly $1000 for this system; and which failed within one month of installation. Not at all happy Thermodyne at the moment, but hope I can post a posistive resolution to this issue soon.

 



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