Complaint Review: Tom Mckeever - Florida

This was partly my fault. My mother warned me but I begged her to give me the $18 to order the tape, & look @ all the grief It has caused me. But tom didn't have to do what he did either. I am not accepting full responsibility here tom should not have tried to take advantage of me & then he lied about me to the better business bureau & In his rebuttal to make people I was the bad guy here. Well I have proof I paid for the order. But I should not had been put threw this I did not know why tom gave me such a hardtime. It was because he wanted to cheat me out my money. He has probally done this to alot of other people & he wanted to sue me cause he couldn't steal peoples money anymore. I was not scared of him or his threats. He sent me my order only after complaining to the better business bureau. And tom did not send It buy certified mail to have someone sign for It he just kept telling lie after lie after lie to protect himself & make me look like the bad guy. I enjoyed the cape tv show someone always has to ruin a good thing. Tom has only himself to blame. If only he had mailed me my order there would be no problems. If tom was out of tapes he should had said that on his website that Is also false advertisement. Because In his response to my better business bureau complaint, (He said he had to go out & look for one). Tom was just trying to protect himself the better business are also crooks they don't care about consumers either. Tom can deny everything all he feels like. It had to take filing a complaint with the better business bureau for him to finally send my tape for the second time!.

And Chuckles is still ranting and raving about an imagined slight in the same report from September 2003. You material is getting old...ancient in fact. You can't sue him and he can't sue you. This rant is almost SIX FREAKING YEARS OLD. Can you find another imaginary slight/I didn't get my way/it's discrimination complaint to write about?

Tom never did file his so called lawsuit. He Is a liar. All I can do Is get a copy of the check to prove I paid for the order & he signed the check & It never cleared the bank & I never got the order. Tom didn't scare me though I waited for 3 weeks after I mailed the check before e-mailing him that I never received the order, all tom wanted to do was play games asking me to send a copy of the check. I called the bank to see If he had cashed It & he did he was just bs me around, tom never did send the tapes 3 times & tom never did send anything threw register mail. I can also can have this verfified threw the post office that tom didn't send It threw certified for a return receipt. Anyone else would had done the same thing If they didn't get there order. I liked the cape t.v. show but everytime I get excited about something someone always has to ruin It for me tom was nothing but a bully & being In business was also unprofessional you can tell that from his rebuttal. That Is all I wanted to expose tom nothing but an hateful, rude abusive, he knew he made a mistake but he was trying to make me out to be the bad guy here & get people agaisnt me well he didn't succeed.

I, will not let anyone else be victimized from tom like how tom victimized me his threats of him bring a lawsuit agaisnt me never scared me cause I got the e- mails, & I got the check & the date he cashed it!. I, done nothing to him I paid for my order u accept to get what u pay for I will not let anyone become victimized like how I was from tom!. I, will keep this post alive regardless of tom's threats of his friviolus lawsuit, u can't accept to get away not sending people what they pay for & giving them a hardtime & you can't threaten sue people if they paid for the item & they never received it them for complaining about not receiving there order. You, can tell buy tom's rebuttal he was not working to resolve only to threaten legal action & falsely accuse me of harassing him, tom showed potential future custormers what kind of person he was from his attuide from his rebuttal. Mabye, I helped another person not to become another victim or have there money taken from them & be put threw the same thing, what custormer wants to do business with someone who threatens legal action agaisnt a cutormer for them trying to get what they paid for.

I, paid for the tape I should have got it with no problems tom should not have gave me a hard time, I had every right to contact him for something I paid for I tried to resolve the problem with him first hand then I made a complaint to the better business bureau. When, u pay for something u accept to get it I am sure everyone else feels the same way, tom didn't want to send it this is the same kind of attuide in tom's e-mails in his response to my report. I, will never do business with an internet business again. This, was a lesson learned I had to learn the hard way but still I should not have been treated this way I, have bank records to prove I paid for the order & the date tom cash the checked. I, will never do business anyone on the internet no matter how much I want to buy it after this experince, I do not want this to happen to anyone else.

No business will admit any wrong doing u can tell a good business from a bad business a good business will work with u to resolve the issues. a bad business will fight agaisnt u & accuse u of slandering them & harassing them & will not work with u to resolve the problem like tom for example. his rebuttal is the example of him refusing to not resolve the problem except lie about me.

I, would not make a complaint agaisnt a company if I didn't have a problem tom lied to the BBB he did not send the tapes 3 times like he said & he did not send it registered mail, or usps to have someone sign for it. Tom, only sent the tapes two times with the first one being sent back from the post office it was the post office fault, I lived @ that address & they said I didn't live @ it so they made the mistake & sent it back. I, straited the problem out & tom refused to send the tape until I made the Better business bureau complaint 09/2003 which tom told more lies, like the lies he has stated in his response to my complaint. I, will not buy anything from the internet anymore & I will not let someone else be done wrong like how I was done wrong!, tom is not selling anything on his website anymore I wonder why!. I, have not lied about tom in anyway & I can prove I paid for this order when I get the copy of the bank statement from my bank & the date the check cleared, I was probally the first person tom tried to do this way but I did not let him get away with it I know my rights & I was not going to let him get away with not sending me my order!.

I, would not make a complaint agaisnt a company if I didn't have a problem tom lied to the BBB he did not send the tapes 3 times like he said & he did not send it registered mail, or usps to have someone sign for it. Tom, only sent the tapes two times with the first one being sent back from the post office it was the post office fault, I lived @ that address & they said I didn't live @ it so they made the mistake & sent it back. I, straited the problem out & tom refused to send the tape until I made the Better business bureau complaint 09/2003 which tom told more lies, like the lies he has stated in his response to my complaint. I, will not buy anything from the internet anymore & I will not let someone else be done wrong like how I was done wrong!, tom is not selling anything on his website anymore I wonder why!. I, have not lied about tom in anyway & I can prove I paid for this order when I get the copy of the bank statement from my bank & the date the check cleared, I was probally the first person tom tried to do this way but I did not let him get away with it I know my rights & I was not going to let him get away with not sending me my order!.

Why, don't tom find real honest work to make money besides on the internet cheating people from there hard earn money, if people have to work hard for there money then so should tom besides on the internet trying to take there money like how tom tried to do me!. This, has taught me a good leason do not trust what people say on the net no matter how legit they may put themselves, tom was just stealing peoples money I do not know if I was the first person he done this to, but I was going to make sure noone else gets put threw this u can tells tom character from his response he was not going to resolve this but make matters worse!. When, people are lying it just makes them sound stupid who would want to do business with someone who is dishonest, I feel stupid for sending tom money I have not mailed anyone money on the internet sense 2002. Tom, does not sell anymore tapes on his website I wonder why. The, website is still running but he is not selling anything anymore that I know of he could be somewhere else doing to somebody else what he done to me, & when they went after him he probally threatend to sue them for slander them like he done to me. I, will not let tom do this to someone else take there money & then lie about them!.

Why, don't tom find real honest work to make money besides on the internet cheating people from there hard earn money, if people have to work hard for there money then so should tom besides on the internet trying to take there money like how tom tried to do me!. This, has taught me a good leason do not trust what people say on the net no matter how legit they may put themselves, tom was just stealing peoples money I do not know if I was the first person he done this to, but I was going to make sure noone else gets put threw this u can tells tom character from his response he was not going to resolve this but make matters worse!. When, people are lying it just makes them sound stupid who would want to do business with someone who is dishonest, I feel stupid for sending tom money I have not mailed anyone money on the internet sense 2002. Tom, does not sell anymore tapes on his website I wonder why. The, website is still running but he is not selling anything anymore that I know of he could be somewhere else doing to somebody else what he done to me, & when they went after him he probally threatend to sue them for slander them like he done to me. I, will not let tom do this to someone else take there money & then lie about them!.

Why, don't tom find real honest work to make money besides on the internet cheating people from there hard earn money, if people have to work hard for there money then so should tom besides on the internet trying to take there money like how tom tried to do me!. This, has taught me a good leason do not trust what people say on the net no matter how legit they may put themselves, tom was just stealing peoples money I do not know if I was the first person he done this to, but I was going to make sure noone else gets put threw this u can tells tom character from his response he was not going to resolve this but make matters worse!. When, people are lying it just makes them sound stupid who would want to do business with someone who is dishonest, I feel stupid for sending tom money I have not mailed anyone money on the internet sense 2002. Tom, does not sell anymore tapes on his website I wonder why. The, website is still running but he is not selling anything anymore that I know of he could be somewhere else doing to somebody else what he done to me, & when they went after him he probally threatend to sue them for slander them like he done to me. I, will not let tom do this to someone else take there money & then lie about them!.

Why, don't tom find real honest work to make money besides on the internet cheating people from there hard earn money, if people have to work hard for there money then so should tom besides on the internet trying to take there money like how tom tried to do me!. This, has taught me a good leason do not trust what people say on the net no matter how legit they may put themselves, tom was just stealing peoples money I do not know if I was the first person he done this to, but I was going to make sure noone else gets put threw this u can tells tom character from his response he was not going to resolve this but make matters worse!. When, people are lying it just makes them sound stupid who would want to do business with someone who is dishonest, I feel stupid for sending tom money I have not mailed anyone money on the internet sense 2002. Tom, does not sell anymore tapes on his website I wonder why. The, website is still running but he is not selling anything anymore that I know of he could be somewhere else doing to somebody else what he done to me, & when they went after him he probally threatend to sue them for slander them like he done to me. I, will not let tom do this to someone else take there money & then lie about them!.

Hey Charles, since everyone you come in contact with discriminates against you or rips you off your idea of not doing business with an internet company is a good idea. In fact, I would take it much further! I think you should avoid doing business with ANYONE! This will end all of the problems you have with businesses. It will not only protect you but it will also protect the companies you so consistently attack. You should also avoid contact with the general public and most certainly law enforcement officers. If you avoid them they cant discrimante and lie about you. Please do everyone a favor and insulate yourself from these transactions. It will save you grief and the readers here can go on to postings that are relevant.

I, will never trust any online business after how tom lied about me saying I slandered him I have not lied I don't care what he says he did not send me my order he did not send the tapes 3 times if people cannot understand my report please keep, your rude responses to yourself. This, is excatly how tom spoke to me when he responded to my e-mails like how he respnded to my report, he lied to the better business bureau if they believed him they are has stupid has him. I, am sorry I ever sent money let tom sue he will waste alot of money cause I have not slandered him I made this complaint for his failure to send me my order he did not, send it three times nor did it send it buy usps to have it verified & signed for it came threw regualar mail. If, noone believes me that is their problem but they need to keep their rude responses to theirselves tom never sent me my order after I mailed him the check for $18 & it cleared the bank & I never received anything from 08/2002 it had to take me to filing a complaint to the better business bureau 09/2003 for him to send me my order & I had to put up, with his rude & hateful response that I was harassing him for no good reason. I, am sick of all the lies & how people like tom can get away with taking advantage from people & making me look bad!, well I am not scared I have not filed a false report agaisnt tom this is the truth. If, people chose not to believe me that is their problem is all because of tom & how he slandered me I have not slandered anyone it is tom is the one who slandered & lied about me & defamation of my character. I, wrote the complaint to make sure this does not happen to someone else. Tom, is a good liar he knows how to lie to make me the bad guy to get attention of him & how wrong he treated me when your in business this is not how u are suppose to treat your custormers or lie to them or not send u their order, Who, would want to do business with someone like that, & then denying they did nothing wrong!.

This will be my last rebuttal, I am tired of people potraying me as some ignorant piece of trahs or making false reports!. I am tired of businesses taken my money & not giving me what I pay for! then lying about it! I don't trust anyone!, I am tired of people potraying me as a liar! & a ignorant piece of trash!, & accusing me of lies!. You'er right dave what comes around goes around!, to these people who scam people & take peoples money they are the low-life ignorant piece of trash! yeap what goes around comes around!, this crap will never go away. I, do not trust anyone online or offline! these people on the internet are the low-life ignorant piece of trash! who take from people! & offline businesses as well!. People, online think they can hide online to do their scams & take peoples money & not give people what they paid for! this is stealing in the bible it is written "thoh shall not steal", yeap what goes around will come around to people who take advantage of people!.

Never in my life have I seen one person get 'ripped off' so often. It's either you or your mother or both. I'd just like to state the obvious - the reason you 2 get ripped off so much is because you come off as a low-life ignorant piece of trash. If you act and talk in real life as you write on this board, you will always get ripped off. However, I am sure that you don't really care, and most of the stuff you post is just a pack of lies anyway. But still, what goes around comes around, and in your case, it's been coming in spades.

My mistake was sending money tom was just trying to discredit me! Trying to make me the liar tom never did send my order like he said he done. He never sent it 3 times he only sent it twice! The post office made the mistake & mailed it back & tom refused to send it again he requested I send him money! Like heck I was going to send him money! It took 8 months until I complained to the better business bureau tom finally sent it! Tom lied again saying he sent it certified mail for a return receipt. It came through regular mail & nobody signed for anything. Tom was just covering himself to tom he cannot make no mistake everyone is wrong! But tom has no right to take peoples money & not send them their order & lie & try to get them introuble & sue them! I am far from worried about toms threats of a lawsuit! Tom did not suffer no damanges. I did. I can sue tom for damanges & defamation to my character, & slander. And for the failure of tom sending my order! I will never again order anything from online! After this what happen being lied about from tom! You need to play it safe online.

My mistake was sending money I know now not to believe everything I see online. I am not afraid of toms threats about a lawsuit because I have done nothing wrong!

Do, not believe anything tom says he is a liar, tom used these defamatory statements he has said about me on this website to slander me because I didn't let him get away with him failing to send my order!. These, are the same defamatory statements he said about me to the better business bureau to make me out to be the liar! he said I was harassing him for no good reason & said that I had the tape in my postion this was a bold face lie!, I never had my order tom made these defamatory statements to get me introuble & to make everybody think I was lying!. Businesses, do this to everybody use defamatory statements to make everybody think the custormer is lying when they are not!, I will never order anything from online again people can believe what they want to believe!. I, hope tom does sue me because I would love all the publicty, because the courts will quikly dispose of his false, frivolous lawsuit, once I produce the check he cashed! & signed his name!.

This complaint will prove my abuse i have suffered by how people treat me when they make a comment to my report, besides helping me or offering me advise on how to resolve this or how to avoid this problem in the future people result in abusing me!. Like, with all the many other complaints i have on companies you see the abuse people to do me & i haven't done a thing to them you see it all over this website, people abusing people like me besides people trying to reck everything for me & ruin everything trying to destroy my life!, i don't do anything to anyone & i have to put up with this abuse its called "mental abuse"!, & their is nothing we can do about it just have to endure the abuse people throw @ me on this website.

No tom did not do anything to satisfy anything he did not deliever my order it had to take me filing a complaint with the better business bureau, Then tom falsely accuses me of damanging him & he wants to sue me tom brought this up & kept arguing about it I, am tired of everyone thinking i am wrong or i am not telling the truth tom is nothing but a liar & he needs professional mental help because he is the sick & twisted person!.

"Hateful & threatening"? I don't think so Mr. Jones. Tom CLEARLY detailed the entire history between himself and you and your mother, and showed that he did everything he could to satisfy you. He even has documented proof of delivery the third time a tape was sent. The only mention of a lawsuit was in the last statement, and that was only because of the constant harassment by you. You even went so far as to post mean and nasty comments on his petition to get this show back on the air. So who is the "hateful & threatening" person now, huh Mr. Charles Ryan *****?

You saw how hateful & threatnening tom was in his rebuttal & wanting to sue me for damanges, which i didn't damanged tom he damanged me i can sue for the failure of delivery of my tape & for taken my money, this was how hateful he was towards me in his e-mails he sent back to me when i was requesting him to send my order which he flat out refused!.

It's because every time you make a post, it says absolutely nothing that you hadn't already said before. Your actions border on trolling, and it seems all you want to do is bump your report up to the top. For crying out loud Charles, you're up to 18 consecutive posts (maybe more by now, I haven't seen yet today) on one of your reports. Can't remember if it's EEOC or Claude Raptis or Global Personal. But they all have several consecutive posts by you, with nothing new to say. Either present new information in your "updates", or move on. It's that simple.

Why does it bother you so much how many times i comment to my reports?

If thats how you feel patrick about everything that suits me just fine, tom is the sick & twisted individual, tom did not deliver my order has he promised he had this all planned i am just tired of mistreatment from businesses!.

Charles, This report is 3 YEARS OLD for crying out loud. Tom's only rebuttal was in November 2003! Why continue to post to this report. Is this guy even still in business anymore? I saw that you even went so far as to post your filth on his petition to have the TV series brought back to the air. Man, you are one sick and twisted individual "Ryan".

If tom has nothing to hide why is he so defensive & all threatnening to sue me, because i brought out he was having an online business & selling non-excisting products, & false advertising. Could it be he was just mad because he couldn't steal peoples money anymore & he wants to sue me for loss of money, nobody wants to do business who ain't honest, & who will get somebody introuble who hasn't done anything wrong. If tom has nothing to hide, then why is he so scared & so defensive in his rebuttal to my report if tom isn't doing nothing illegal & he wants to sue me for damanges or so called damanges, tom is mad know he wants to sue it is our job to report bad business & to report fraudlent on-line business practice. I just think tom is very funny sue me HA HA!, tom needs to get a life & quit getting online & stealing peoples money & he wants to sue people who complain about him, theirs no wonder their is so much hatred in the world!.

Charles, This is what I'm talking about. You have now made 6 "updates" to this report since my post back in March. And you really did not provide any real updates to this report, just the same old "poor me" garbage, and "I'm going to sue them for this" crap. You need to get off the computer, and concentrate on getting your life in order.

You try reporting a company all you get is greif & people telling that you are uneducated & judge you about your spelling & typing & having the business attack you & accuse you of slander, this is what you have to put up with when reporting a business.

You see how hateful tom was in his reponse to me this was how hateful tom was in his response to my better business bureau & this was how hateful tom was toward me in the e-mails & accused me of being rude to him, tom has that attuide that he does nothing wrong has most crooks do he wanted to sue me because he was not able to steal peoples money anymore like he did mine!. You see how hateful & abusive people are on this website toward people harassing & telling them they need to be in a mental hospital, tom hides behind the internet to commit his scams & trying to slander me like he did to the better business bureau & then have the nerve to threat to sue me! i have not done nothing wrong to tom, but abusiers like him want to make you think its your fault!.

Tom was pissed because he got caught so he wanted to sue me, its our goal if a business has abused you & treated you unfairly to make them lose business & tom is pissed & he wants to sue me for damanges. Tom caused the damanges himself if he even tries to sue me for slander i will file a defamantion suit agaisnt him so fast he will not know what hit him, i could care less what the better business bureau thinks i hate them to & could sue them to they have put on his record he made every attempt to settle he did not attempt to settle nothing accept to slander me, i see on some other report of mine tom has paid some people to come to try to slander me to tell me that i am making false complaints agaisnt him, & tom thinking i am gonna sit & take his abuse he has another thing coming. Tom is pissed @ me & he wants to sue me i do not want no futher contact with this man he tried to cheat me out of my money & lie himself out of it & made me look bad to the better business bureau, tom is the cause of all this mess if he had sent me order to begin with all this mess could have been avoided but instead he chose the hard way & get this tom calls himself a christian no christian acts the way he does like a thief stealing peoples money & then i have to put up with people telling me i need an education calling me a liar, which i know tom is behind all of it he is behind everything evil deed you think i am gonna let somebody stand me down!. Why should i have to put up with anybodys abuse & from toms abuse & his lies agaisnt me!.

Tom can blame his self for damanges done to the-cape, because i didn't recieve till months & months after i sent him money & i have bank records to prove he cashed the check himself so he better think twice before wanting to sue me for damanges!. If people want to believe tom more then me they have that right to but if they go around slandering my name like tom has then i can sue for defamation of character, tom never serviced my order i waited for months & months for it till i made my complaint with the BBB, & had to put up with more verbal abuse from here like on this report is the same way he acted in the e-mails when i e-mailed him asking for my order & he kepted asking for me to send copies of the check, why did i need to do that he cashed it himself! he was just playing games with me & when i complained about him never servicing my order he wanted to sue me for damanges. Well tom better think twice because i have copies of bank statements to prove he cashed the check himself & the e-mails me trying to resolve this!, & his verbal abusive attuide toward me like ya'll see in his response his threats agaisnt me & being very abusive, tom is very unprofessional in business so if it fell he can blame nobody but himself for trying to take advantage of me & not send me my order so tom better think twice, before taken me to court because i have copies of bank statements & e-mails & the better business bureau complaint, I will win the case easily & immediately.

Tom can blame his self for damanges done to the-cape, because i didn't recieve till months & months after i sent him money & i have bank records to prove he cashed the check himself so he better think twice before wanting to sue me for damanges!. If people want to believe tom more then me they have that right to but if they go around slandering my name like tom has then i can sue for defamation of character, tom never serviced my order i waited for months & months for it till i made my complaint with the BBB, & had to put up with more verbal abuse from here like on this report is the same way he acted in the e-mails when i e-mailed him asking for my order & he kepted asking for me to send copies of the check, why did i need to do that he cashed it himself! he was just playing games with me & when i complained about him never servicing my order he wanted to sue me for damanges. Well tom better think twice because i have copies of bank statements to prove he cashed the check himself & the e-mails me trying to resolve this!, & his verbal abusive attuide toward me like ya'll see in his response his threats agaisnt me & being very abusive, tom is very unprofessional in business so if it fell he can blame nobody but himself for trying to take advantage of me & not send me my order so tom better think twice, before taken me to court because i have copies of bank statements & e-mails & the better business bureau complaint, I will win the case easily & immediately.

Tom better think fast before he files a defamation suit agaisnt me because i will file a defamation suit agaisnt him & also for slander. If i own a business i will not treat people like this i will not give them a hardtime or refuse to send them what they order like how tom treated me & i will not lie about them or try to slander them or threat to sue them like tom as done me, so he better watch it. I do not have to take anything from he or anybody else from this website i will sue tom for what i have suffered! the better business bureau as put that he has a satisfactory rating which he don't deserve!, & they put the company a good faith record they keep changing his record tom did not try to resolve this complaint but to slander me & still gave me more grief trying to make me look bad. The better business bureau is putting false information to hide his bad & fraudlent business!. If they want to take his side they can but they better not lie about me or try to slander me!.

Do you people have anymore to do then find my old reports I have written then try to do more harm to me by posting them on other peoples reports & getting me mixed up with other people!, I am the real victim here businesses lying about me when I reported them threatnening to sue me!. If you are here to bash me or tear me apart because of my reports because you don't agree with me don't give ya'll the right to post them on other reports for people to look at. People on this website love to make other people look bad so if you don't have anything better to do then to find my old reports & insult me I have nothing to say to you.

Good grief, here we have yet another "rant" from Charles. This time his is pi**ed off at someone in Florida, and again is threatening to sue, even though this took place over 3 years ago. One has to think that Charles sole existance now is to sit at his computer, constantly refreshing his screen to see what new responses have been posted to his reports, or to simply sit and submit post after post after post on each and every one of his reports. Some have strings of posts from him that go a dozen in a row! Charles, get a life! Why didn't you take that job with Swift? Or was that you just pulling our leg? Just as well, wouldn't want you on the roads in a big rig anyhow.

All statements are true & accurate, tom did not send our order when he recieved my money instead he fought with us & lied about us as you see in his rebuttal accusing us of defamation his character which he had his legal department say some deframtory things about me on his website, which i have posted on here tom was making me out to be the bad guy do not fall for any online business then when you report them tom threatnen to take out a lawsuit agaisnt me for defamation tom was saying i was harassing him for no good reason. Tom made some deframtory statements to the better business bureau saying that i was lying about him I have fallen to alot of victim to alot of business scams & how tom refused to send our order instead he lied about me to make me out to be the bad guy to cover his tracks!, & accuses me of defamation & that he would file suit in court well tom don't scare me with his threats, I am fighting for me & for everybody so they will not be taken advantage of & having to go threw all the pain & suffering which tom caused me & what tom put me threw because he could not say he was wrong & try to make the complaint right, tom chose the other way, tom denied any wrong doing like all businesses do & blame you for everything like how tom did me & threatnend to sue me for damanges which i didn't do anything to tom accept ask him for my order that I paid for which tom failed to send me & tried to get me introuble falsely accusing me of defamanted his character & loss of his business. Which tom is lying about me tom needs to get some mental help & quit blaming everyone for his problems!.

The better business bureau in orlando flordia stands by tom, this man lied about me saying he sent tapes 3 times he only sent one & I didn't receive that one so the better business ignores my complaint he finally sent it though only 2 years later, i have fallen victim to one of toms scams & then he lied to get me introuble because he was pissed because he got caught & wanted to sue me for damanges well it is our job, to report bad business & make them lose business for them trying to steal your money & not send you your order this is fraud & i get called a liar by tome because he could not own up to his wrong doing & he wanted to blame me & trying to scare me & get me introuble. All I did was request my order i sent him my check & it clear the bank & I never recieved it & e-mail him & he threatned to get me introuble & contacted his lawyers friends & send me a copy of the package scanned & accused me of supplying a false address & tom said this goes ground for a lawsuit, for supplying a false address then tom thinks we are playing games with him no tom is the one playing games with us because we are on to him about trying to still our money & argueing with us. Oh these are somemore of toms lies saying he sent the package cerfitied receipt so I would have to sign for it & my grandparents got the package & i got the mail & tom did not!, request to have it signed for these were just more of toms lies to cover his tracks! i do not know who these legal eagle people were some legal department contact my internet service provider accusing me of harassing tom & tom had to close his real know e-mail address to keep me from e-mailing him how childish & they were the ones who sent me the scanned package & they said case closed, so they did not make tom send my package because they were on his side because he had lied about me to them saying i was lying about him never sending me my order, this was in 2002. I complained to the better business bureau where tom continued to defamate my character & slandering me telling bogus lies to the better business bureau to make them think i was lying about him, & tom finally sent me my tape but not by certified mail like him & his legal department said he done it was sent threw regualar mail, then 5 months later after this was over i found slandering statements about me & my mother on his comment board accusing us of defamantion of character & they will sue us for damanges we have done nothing to tom for him to sue us, he could not admit he failed to send my order & he was lying telling bogus lies to hie legal department or "so call legal department" if you know what i mean i am angered & furious by toms lies & him threatning legal action agaisnt us for something we have not done & lying saying he had mailed my order which he didn't & making false complaints to my internet service provider I was not harassing tom & i was not trying to slander tom but I was going to report that he did not mail me my order after he got my money & he denies doing this he denies doing anything wrong, he became hateful & rude when we were contacting him consently to get our order & he denies being hateful towards us, if anybody messes with me tries to steal my money & doesn't send me my order they will get introuble & if they threat me with a false lawsuit then i will be fraud charges agaisnt tom for misleading information on his website to the fbi. I will also bring legal action agaisnt tom for all the pain & suffering caused by him & for defamantion of my character & for slander.

Tom needs to quit playing the blame game & needs to quit threatening legal action. He had no right to look up my personal information it was none of his business where I lived he put my grandparents in the middle of this when I just used their address for him to send it. I have e-mails asking repeatedly for him to send me my order each time he refused & was very rude & hateful towards us accusing us of being rude towards me & if we had not of been so rude to him first he would have mailed us our order but he was the rude one to us when he replied back. Tom contacted these legal eagle people I don't know who they are some law enforcement or lawyers & they contacted me & sent me copies of the returned order & said case is closed, & accused me of harassing tom. I made a complaint to the better business bureau tom "LIED" about me to the better business bureau & turned everything around to make me look like the bad guy he said my grandparents were harassing him also they known nothing about this problem I just used their address for him to send the package & he got very ugly towards me in his e-mail telling me he ain't going to send me nothing, tom was trying to steal my money & lie about me to get me infrouble for harassment & even tried to make a false complaint to my internet service provider but my e-mail never got shut down. Tom made false statements about me to the better business bureau my report is very truthful & accurate I sent tom the $18 for the tape & I waited for 60 days & I never got anything back in the mail & I e-mailed tom several times telling him I never recieved my order & he was acting like he never received my check for the $18 & I have bank records to prove he cashed the check, tom & his lawyer friends from this legal eagle place was going to bring legal action agaisnt me & making false statements about me saying he mailed my order 3 times & he sent the, 3rd tape by certified mail & my grandparents signed for it this was a bold face lie I can have this verified by the post office that tom never did send anything to have this verified, or have a signature tom & his lawyer friends were making false statements about me I put the false statement on this website it is a complete farse not true just to make me look bad, so tom can cover up his tracks from him failing to mail me my order & attacking me & threatening & lying about me accusing me of defamanting his character. I brought out toms fraudenlent business practice & how he ripped my money off, lied about me & trying to falsely accuse me of something I had not done nothing will keep me quit about the abuse from tom & his lies about me, due to my so called harassment he accused me off he had to disable his well known e-mail address because of my harassment see how childish & a baby tom is being for me not to contact him anymore. Tom, did not send my order has he promised he is just like every other business out to take advantage of people steal their money & try to ruin their live inorder for them to keep out of trouble happens every year, the FBI needs to look into more about these fraudlent busniess who steal peoples money like tom did me.

Tom Is just pissed because we did not keep quit like he wanted us to we went after him because he did not service our order & we reported his a*s, we can sue tom for defamation I really do not care if anybody believes me or not tom has done a good job in getting everyone agaisnt me he is unprofessional idiot who does not handle business good. Tom started this s**t about bringing legal action because we would not quit bothering him untill he sent us our order tom will not admit to any wrong doing he tried to make me the bad guy to the better business bureau, tom is a liar & a thief. I will not trust not to send money to anyone of the internet, tom is just pissed off because we exposed his corrupt business & that is where all this is the reason why he wants to bring legal action out agaisnt us. When i made my complaint to the better business bureau is when tom decided to send me my order let me get this strait nobody signed for anything at my home address tom did not request a return receipt verified by usps he sent it by regular mail but people are to stupid on the internet to believe anything I can have this verified by my local post office. We do not want any contact with tom anymore he is a stubborn idiot who cannot take responsibilty for his own actions. We will bring legal action agaisnt tom we have copies of all e-mails sent to him requesting for him to send it & each time he refused to mail it to us & a copy of the check signed & cashed by him we will also file a complaint with the FBI for internet fraud! & for defamation to our name because of tom we deny anything that tom accuses us of. Tom failed to service our order when we mailed him the check for the order & refused to send it Its best not to trust any business out their sense their all out to take advantage of you then lie about you when you expose their wrong doing's. The FBI has educated people & warned people about internet fraud from this experince has taught me never to send money to anyone on the internet due to this problem because of crazy people on the internet like tom who try to get innocent people introuble like he has done me & I probally have stoped someone else from getting their money ripped off which is why tom is so pissed off about I have not done nothing to tom except ask for my order which i paid for & he has abused it.

First of all tom didn't never send no three tapes we never got the got the tape when we mailed him the check for $18 dollars then about a week later the check had cleared the bank and weeks went bye and we got nothing in the mail. Then we started e-mailing him asking for the order telling him that the check had cleared the back and we got records of it he started playing these games always asking that we send a copy of the check well we was always busy to where we couldn't run to the bank and get it then he became rude and ugly toward us for no reason telling us never to e-mail him again and that he wasn't going to send us a thing. We responded back we got rude back to him then he accused us of being rude first saying if we wasn't so rude to him to begin with that he would have sent it the next day he said that we were the problems of the world then he said that he would send it has a bloomin gift. Then we gave him our address two weeks later nothing again he then contacted these legal eagle people we don't know who they are then they e-mailed our e-mail provider saying that we was harassing tom all we was doing was requesting that we get our tape which he refused to send from the very beginning and caused all this conflict he lied to those legal eagle people then they e-mailed a photocopy of the package our post office had screwed up returned to sender no such address know make the problem even more worse know tome thinks we supplied him with a false address then these legal eagle people said case closed and that they weren't going to send us another tape. Then around Oct. 2003 i filed a complaint with the Better Business Bureau for tom never sending us our order again he was harassing very rude and hostile just like we had to put up when we was dealing with him in Auh/2002 said a bunch of lies about us of course never admitting to what he had done to cause all of this to them then tome finally mailed us our order after 2 years of trying to get it nobody rips my money of and then i found ripoff.com and told my story and then tom wonts to sue us nobody threantens to sue us because we have done nothing to this man for he just didn't like it because we confronted him and went after him this man is crazy for the things he said to us. We will no longer put up with any more abuse from "Tom" we don't care how much he hates us but he is not going to threaten us and get away with it and know he has told another lie this time saying he sent it bye certfied mail for where someone has to sign for it tom didn't sign for it bye certfied mail it came threw regular mail my grandparents didn't sign anything he's a liar thanks ripoff.com for exposing tom for who he really is a lying, theif, for all the things he said to us and a pig he don't like it well to bad we don't care what he likes were tired of these rip off idiots like "TOM" who rip off our money and know 6 or 7 months after its over with i found one his website a public comment board i found where he had voided out my comments i had put of what he done to me these legal eagle placed that their seeking damages accusing us of tom had sustainted no where the only ones that had sustatained damages but we decided to forgive and let it go put i just wanted to point out what really happend that tom "TOM" is a "LIAR" that he wonts to keep it going for no reason so i'am writing about it again he is so mad that we went after which was our right to do that he wonts to sue us he needs to face up own up to his own mistake but he doesn't wont to do that below is what i found of what those legal eagle people said about me. Nobody threatnes to sue me for something i haven't done. -- We are helping THE CAPE staff by recommending legal action for damages against the below Ryan (Jones) and his associates. GA State attorney's office has been notified. FWIW: This "gentlemen" and his "mother" were sent tapes THREE times, the last having been USPS-Verified as signed for by his Grandparent. --- -- NOW, with THAT aside, we are also attempting to get DVD's of the THE CAPE episodes. Stay tuned! Appartenly tom can't let stuff go he has to keep it going i forgot about it when i got my tape tom is just an angry man who hates it when people confront him about stuff i will not put up with it from these people let them try to bring legal action agaisnt us we can get a copy of the check and prove that tom is a liar.

First of all tom didn't never send no three tapes we never got the got the tape when we mailed him the check for $18 dollars then about a week later the check had cleared the bank and weeks went bye and we got nothing in the mail. Then we started e-mailing him asking for the order telling him that the check had cleared the back and we got records of it he started playing these games always asking that we send a copy of the check well we was always busy to where we couldn't run to the bank and get it then he became rude and ugly toward us for no reason telling us never to e-mail him again and that he wasn't going to send us a thing. We responded back we got rude back to him then he accused us of being rude first saying if we wasn't so rude to him to begin with that he would have sent it the next day he said that we were the problems of the world then he said that he would send it has a bloomin gift. Then we gave him our address two weeks later nothing again he then contacted these legal eagle people we don't know who they are then they e-mailed our e-mail provider saying that we was harassing tom all we was doing was requesting that we get our tape which he refused to send from the very beginning and caused all this conflict he lied to those legal eagle people then they e-mailed a photocopy of the package our post office had screwed up returned to sender no such address know make the problem even more worse know tome thinks we supplied him with a false address then these legal eagle people said case closed and that they weren't going to send us another tape. Then around Oct. 2003 i filed a complaint with the Better Business Bureau for tom never sending us our order again he was harassing very rude and hostile just like we had to put up when we was dealing with him in Auh/2002 said a bunch of lies about us of course never admitting to what he had done to cause all of this to them then tome finally mailed us our order after 2 years of trying to get it nobody rips my money of and then i found ripoff.com and told my story and then tom wonts to sue us nobody threantens to sue us because we have done nothing to this man for he just didn't like it because we confronted him and went after him this man is crazy for the things he said to us. We will no longer put up with any more abuse from "Tom" we don't care how much he hates us but he is not going to threaten us and get away with it and know he has told another lie this time saying he sent it bye certfied mail for where someone has to sign for it tom didn't sign for it bye certfied mail it came threw regular mail my grandparents didn't sign anything he's a liar thanks ripoff.com for exposing tom for who he really is a lying, theif, for all the things he said to us and a pig he don't like it well to bad we don't care what he likes were tired of these rip off idiots like "TOM" who rip off our money and know 6 or 7 months after its over with i found one his website a public comment board i found where he had voided out my comments i had put of what he done to me these legal eagle placed that their seeking damages accusing us of tom had sustainted no where the only ones that had sustatained damages but we decided to forgive and let it go put i just wanted to point out what really happend that tom "TOM" is a "LIAR" that he wonts to keep it going for no reason so i'am writing about it again he is so mad that we went after which was our right to do that he wonts to sue us he needs to face up own up to his own mistake but he doesn't wont to do that below is what i found of what those legal eagle people said about me. Nobody threatnes to sue me for something i haven't done. -- We are helping THE CAPE staff by recommending legal action for damages against the below Ryan (Jones) and his associates. GA State attorney's office has been notified. FWIW: This "gentlemen" and his "mother" were sent tapes THREE times, the last having been USPS-Verified as signed for by his Grandparent. --- -- NOW, with THAT aside, we are also attempting to get DVD's of the THE CAPE episodes. Stay tuned! Appartenly tom can't let stuff go he has to keep it going i forgot about it when i got my tape tom is just an angry man who hates it when people confront him about stuff i will not put up with it from these people let them try to bring legal action agaisnt us we can get a copy of the check and prove that tom is a liar.

We have done nothing to his man or his staff this has been over for months know i have not contacted tom again sense he sent our tape when i contacted the better busniess bureau about him then these legal eagle people who he has lied to about us are bothering us threanted to sue us for stuff we have not he's just mad cause we confronted him and went after him and complain about tom he has no right what so ever to threatnen cause he's the one who didn't send our order to begin with when he was suppose to then he got very rude and hostile toward us saying never to e-mail him back again and that he wasn't going to send us anything they were the ones that was playing the games with us bye always asking for the copy of the check when he already cashed it himself and it cleared our bank he just wanted to rip of our money we don't care how much hates us or dislikes us the bottom line is he's a theif and a liar and we brought him out thats what he can't stand we done nothing to these people they caused all this conflict just cause they promot a tv show doesn't give them the right to cheat people out of their money and treat them like dirt well we wont have it we will take them to court for them defamted us and lying about us.

This was settle months ago then these legal eagle people starting posting some stuff about me for no reason at all apparantly tom wants to keep this mess going well we wont stand for it tom has been nothing but trouble from the very beginning he ripped our money of cheated us lying about us and know trying to get us in trouble for stuff we haven't even done to him. Tom has no proof what so ever that his busniess has been losed his website is still up and runnin if he lossed his busniess his website would have been closed we will not put up anymore abuse from tom anymore its been months sent he sent us our tape and he still starting up trouble bye lying to these legal eagle people about us we never harrassed him all we ever done was request that he sent our tape he then became ugly and rude toward us tom says stuff to us we are going to say stuff back its hard to imagined how rude and thoughless the cape employee's are to treat people like how he has done to us.Tom never sent it bye certfied mail for somebody to sign for the tape my grandparents did not sign for it tom is just telling more lies to try to get us introuble well we wont stand for IT!

I am so sorry this person or person(s) have this problem - I have dealt with 3 apparent aliases, and untold harassment for whatever joy he/she receives from it. First a Kathy Jones, Then a Ryan Jones, now a "Charles" alias??? 1) Anyone that ordered a CAPE PILOT Tape was sent the their tape. Period. 2) They (Kathy Jones, or Ryan Jones, or whomever) Contacted THE CAPE and complained about not receiving it. We responded that if they had done so, there were no outstanding orders and one was sent, but possibly it was lost in transit. Could we see some proof of the order? 3) At our request, they (Jones) AGREED to send a photocopy of both sides of the Check showing good faith. 4) Months later - Nothing received. 5) They then became rude (BTW: They NEVER, NEVER received anything rude or threatening from us. That is a bold-face lie)and demanded the Tape. 6) For a simple tape, we could not care less about our cost - They're welcome to it and it was sent TO THE ADDRESS SPECIFIED at our expense. 7) It was returned by the PO as "Undeliverable to that address and No further information available" about this person or persons. We still have the E-Mail SPECIFYING that address that it was to be sent to and a copy of that E-Mail was forwarded to them. 8) They complained again, blamed the PO and we ALSO sent them a Photocopy of the returned package, establishing that we were not going to play their game any longer. It was requested that the send $5.00 to cover the last Postage to GA, back to us and to send a THIRD tape to whatever new generic or PO Box address they came up with. 9) They defamed us on a public Comment-Board, and although they then were now legally in trouble, we decided, with counsel, to forgive and forget. However they continued their diatribe. (Do they ENJOY this sort of thing?) 10) NOW, recently, they file a complaint with the Orlando Better Business Bureau, (who now has the evidence of the deceptions), but this time they gave the BBB an actual street Address for this "Kathy Jones" person and a telephone number. A reverse lookup revealed that it was the address of a DIFFERENT person - The BBB has his name also, as do we, along with physical addresses. 11) The FINAL Chapter (almost) -- Once more a 3rd Tape is sent to "Kathy Jones" AT the supplied physical address, where it is SIGNED for by the person referenced at that address, and we have the receipt and signature confirmation, dated and verified by USPS. 12) The VERY FINAL Chapter: If this persists, we WILL file suit for defamation, Damages to THE CAPE's reputation and loss of business, Damages to my reputation, Court costs and Attorney's fees, as well as PUNITIVE damages against ALL parties. We have been patient beyond belief, responded properly, and have validated copies of every E-Mail, PO Receipts and the returned package, ad nauseam. We will win said case easily and immediately. Fin..