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  • Report:  #128958

Complaint Review: PNC Bank - Pittsburgh Pennsylvania

Reported By:
- Centerville, Pennsylvania,
Submitted:
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PNC Bank
www.pncbank.com Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, U.S.A.
Phone:
800-762-2265
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I have run into two recent serious problems with PNC Bank that I would like to report. First, I had purchased a product online using my PNC Visa Debit card. The company that I purchased from charged the fee to my card four(4) times accidentally. I had only enough money in my account to cover one charge. Three(3) of them showed up on my account as overdrafts. I was charged $93.00 ($31 x 3)in NSF charges.

I contacted both PNC and the company that overcharged me. PNC would do nothing to assist me or to block the overcharges, however the company that I purchased from was cooperative and refunded the three extra charges to my account. However PNC will not and still refuses to return the $93.00 in NSF overdraft charges that should have never occurred in the first place.

Secondly, I had a beginning balance of $179.48 in my account on 1/14/05. Between 1/14/05 and 1/17/05 I had made debit purchases of $40.00, $19.87, $11.53, $10.00, $30.09, and $23.27 respectively that should have left me with a balance of $44.72.

On 1/18/05 my furnace broke down. Knowing that I was in a bind with no heat and needed money fast I made the decision to make a withdrawal in the amount of $140.00, willfully knowing that I would be overdrawing my account. And knowing that I would be charged a single $31.00 NSF fee. Yes, this was wrong on my part, but I was willing to accept the penalty until my paycheck was direct deposited into my account.

However, PNC Bank decided to wait until 1/18/05 to charge my $179.48 account for the purchases made between 1/14/05 and 1/17/05. This should not have made a difference because all of the charges were coming out the same day (1/18/05), except that they decided that they would subtract the $140.00 that I knew I was over drafting on 1/18/05 first, before subtracting the six other purchases that actually happened days prior to the $140.00 overdraft.

The result: $179.40 - $140.00 = $39.48 which cleared, then all six purchases from the previous days were applied so that all six would end up as overcharges. Rather than one NSF charge of $31.00 they charged me $186.00 ($31.00 x 6)in NSF charges.

I called PNC Bank to address the situation. The representative, who easily saw the problem, then proceeded to tell me "Sorry, we can't control how the computer applies the charges to your account, but I can refund you some of the overcharges." I thought this was great, but she only refunded me $31.00 and said "That's all I can do."

PNC kept and will not give back the other charges. I thought I would be charged $31.00 for one overdraft, instead I was charged $155.00.

In just these two instances PNC Bank has ripped me off a total of $248.00, and I have documentation of everything. If there are any lawyers who can assist me in this matter it would be greatly appreciated!

Brian

Centerville, Pennsylvania
U.S.A.


8 Updates & Rebuttals

John

White,
Georgia,
U.S.A.
Your Own Fault

#2Consumer Comment

Tue, February 01, 2005

The available balance at an ATM shows only the amounts that have been authorized, but not processed. Most ATM's also will show you a real balance which is the amount that has been processed. Transactions processed between the 14th and 17th is a holiday weekend. The weekend transactions at all banks do not process until the first "Business" day which would be the 18th. The bank did not do anything wrong. They processed the ATM TRansactions first. The electronic transactions come in through a handler and come in later at night on that first business day. Belly up and pay your late fees.


Brian

Centerville,
Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.
What I failed to tell you originally.

#3Author of original report

Mon, January 31, 2005

It was stated that I wanted the little ones applied first and the $140.00 last. This is not true. When I went to the ATM to perform the overdraft my balance was $44.72. Yes, I checked first as you can do a balance inquiry. What does this mean? That the other charges were already applied to my account PRIOR to my large withdrawl. Then when I went to withdrawl the $140.00, I was given a notice that I was overdrafting and that I would be charged an additional $31.00 for the overdraft. I accepted the $31.00 charge and was given the cash. Even after this the ATM and PNC Bank allowed the transaction to take place. Then rearranged the charges in the way described in my first post. What I don't think people understand is that this was NOT a bounced check, which is illegal. This was a documented agreement between myself and the bank, by accepting the transaction. If this is not a "line of credit," then why did PNC Bank allow the withdrawal. And if I knew they were going to charge me $186.00 for the withdrawal, I would have declined to accept. However, they stated $31.00, which I did accept.


Brian

Centerville,
Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.
Situation to be rectified by my attorney.

#4Author of original report

Mon, January 31, 2005

I have contacted a lawyer who has agreed to take the case after reviewing the evidence and has assured me that the situation will be rectified in my favor. Yes it will cost more, but the outcome will be worth it. Therefore as I can not remove the post, I just wanted to let those submitting rebuttals that this is a closed matter. However, if you want to leave posts to talk to each other and evolove this thread to a message board, feel free. I, personally have no need to come back to respond or read any additional comments, as I have been advised.


Cory

San Antonio,
Texas,
U.S.A.
Who's Calling Who An Idiot?

#5Consumer Comment

Sun, January 30, 2005

What does the bank have to do with the fact that the merchant charged your card four times? It's not the banks fault. As a merchant, I would be responsible for any fees you got, based on my error. For the first situation you ought to be posting the name of the company that charged your card four times. It was their error, they ought to reimburse you for your bank fees, if they are a good company. How in the world would the bank know to allow the first charge but not the other three? Sometimes, multiple charges do throw up a red flag, but that has to do with credit cards and gets caught by their security. Secondly you knowingly withdrew more money then you had in your account. You figured one NSF for $140 was worth the price. You didn't figure on six. You wanted the bank to pay the little ones first and "hold off" on the large one. The old pay this one, but not that one.


Lee

Sydney,
Australia,
Australia
Um, you had 4 transactions out...

#6Consumer Suggestion

Sun, January 30, 2005

The fault lies with the online merchant who inadvertently (or not) charged your card 3 or 4 times over, the banks must honor whatever the merchant identifies as the amount authorized for a purchase. any reputable merchant would refund the amount overdrawn AND associated fees. If a bank took a customers word everytime something went wrong in regards to online transactions they would go bust and we wouldnt have any place to keep our money.


Brian

Centerville,
Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.
The bank admitted fault idiot!

#7Author of original report

Sun, January 30, 2005

Yes, I made the decision, and would gladly accept the one $31.00 charge for my one overdraft that I was supposed to be "DULY" charged, Not six of them. It amazes me how people from Austrailia can't read. The bank admitted fault idiot! Anyway, genious, how do you explain the first situation. They STOLE $93.00 from me for something I did not do.


John

Pittsburgh,
Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.
It's not the banks fault

#8Consumer Comment

Sun, January 30, 2005

Why do you blame the bank for the error of the merchant. Ask them to refund the fees the bank charged. And, you also knew what you were doing was wrong by overdrawing the account as if it was some line of credit. To answer your question about the items posting to the account later than expected, you should be keep a balance of the account and you would have know the merchants had not submitted the payments. The items come into your account and will post after the merchant clears the transaction. This is your fault not the bank. If the bank was nice and did refund part of the fees that was more than fair as it was YOUR FAULT.


Lee

Sydney,
Australia,
Australia
You knew you were wrong

#9Consumer Comment

Fri, January 28, 2005

You mentioned yourself that you knew you were overdrawing the account, the minute you made the decision to do that you accepted the outcome, in this case excessive fees. It always amazes me how people think its alright for them to take advantage of a credit provider by overdrawing, going over credit limit etc but then rant and rave when they are duly charged!

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