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  • Report:  #279898

Complaint Review: American Bankruptcy Centers - Miami Florida

Reported By:
- Hobart, Indiana,
Submitted:
Updated:

American Bankruptcy Centers
1521 Alton Road Miami, 33139 Florida, U.S.A.
Phone:
800-643-0322
Web:
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I was looking to file bankruptcy without paying attorney's fees. When I did a Google search on the subject, up popped American Bankruptcy Centers. I called them today, and "Greg" was very knowledgable about bankruptcy. I asked him a half an hour's worth of questions, crying most of the time, and what he said was very relieving. My husband walked in from work, and I told him about it, and he called "Greg" back and told him that we wanted to proceed. Greg then gave us an account number with Bank of America and told us that we could deposit $100 in there today or tomorrow, and then deposit the other $95 next week. He gave us the business name on the account, but told us that the company was based in JACKSONVILLE, Florida (the website says Miami). The fact that I read that a judge has order Greg Bohl not to do any more business in central Florida explains why THIS company's mailing address is in Miami.

After hearing how he wanted us to get the money to him, I felt a little leary about it, so I Googled "Is American Bankruptcy Centers a rip-off?" Nothing came up under that name, but the first response by Google was for Consumer Credit Services of America and a Greg Bohl. I read it, and it was EXACTLY like my story. The Greg I had talked to had not given me his last name, so I called him back and told him that the nearest Bank of America was 20 miles away, and they advised me to get his first and last name in order to ensure that I could make the deposit in case they needed that information (this wasn't true). He told me his name was Greg Scott, but that his name wasn't on the account. I asked him who his other co-workers were at the company, and his said, "Payola Fontalvo, Richard something-or-other...there's only about 7 of us here." Now, I ask you...if the company is only 7 employees large, whose name IS on the account--wouldn't they all be able to write checks off of the account? Whose business is it? And, if there are only 7 employees (well, ABOUT 7, he said), wouldn't he know Richard "something-or-other's" last name??? I asked him if he had ever heard the name Greg Bohl and he said, "No." I said, "OK, well, are you sure, because he's apparently done a LOT of bad business doing the SAME THING you do to the letter, and he's in the same city as you. It seems kind of strange that you've never heard of him." He said, "No, I've never heard of a Greg Bohl, and I'm NOT Greg Bohl--I'm Greg Scott." I said, "OK, well, I'll go to the bank tomorrow."

Now, here are some interesting coincidences. When I looked up Consumer Credit Services of America, the employees listed with the company were Greg S. (Scott?) Bohl and Claudia (Payola?) Fontalvo. Also, the other rip-off reports I have read implicate a "Greg" wanting the same amount of money for the same job that my Greg wanted out of us. I read one particular report that stated a young lady deposited money in a Bank of America account (I have the account number to verify that I got this directly from Greg and am not just copying all of this off of other reports). And, as I stated before, the mailing address on the website states the business is in Miami, FL (SOUTHERN Florida), and yet on the phone Greg told me he was in JACKSONVILLE, Florida (CENTRAL Florida, where he is forbidden to do business)!

I hope the person who got him stripped of his business rights the first time will read this and find out that he is STILL doing business in the same location under a different business name AND a different personal name (or so it seems). If I am wrong, then this is one dead-ringer coincidence, but can I REALLY be wrong? I'm just glad I researched before I gave him any money. I hope this helps someone else!

Kara

Hobart, Indiana

U.S.A.

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2 Updates & Rebuttals

Dwarrenee

Tampa,
Florida,
U.S.A.
Greg Scott and Greg Bohl are one in the same

#2Consumer Suggestion

Sat, June 07, 2008

You were very right and correct to compare the two individuals and companies. They are one in the same doing the same con under different names. I was just wondering what ever happened to him and how he fell off the radar after all I went through getting him investigated by the DOJ prosecutor's office. So now I have some fresh information to provide them. He never appeared in court to defend himself or his actions, he never paid the court ordered sanctions and looks like he never stopped running his scam. But I am still working on meeting him face to face along with Ms. Claudia Montalvo (or whatever name she is using these days). The court order forbade him from filing any documents on behalf of others in the State of Florida. Unfortunately, the internet is not restricted and I don't know how else to get the word out. I am considering starting a letter writing campaign to all of the bankruptcy courts in the United States and sending copies of the court orders from California and Florida. The court order is public record should anyone ever need it for evidence in their own case against these people. It was filed in the Middle District of Florida Honorable Judge K.Rodney May. Hope this helps.


Abci

Miami,
Florida,
U.S.A.
REBUTTAL TO REPORT OF KARA

#3UPDATE Employee

Tue, December 04, 2007

American Bankruptcy Centers prepares bankruptcy forms on the Internet --- it's as simple as that. There's no conspiracy. There's no "scam". We get information from our customers, run their credit reports, sort through all their debts and then prepare their official bankruptcy forms. If someone wants to check the public bankruptcy court records, you will see that we regularly prepare bankruptcy forms in virtually every bankruptcy court district in the U.S. By law, our name and taxpayer id. # is listed on every bankruptcy that we prepare. So you can check it out if you want. We also get repeat referrals from county legal aid offices. We prepared emergency bankruptcy forms for a customer in Kara's hometown of Indianapolis just yesterday. But all it takes is just one person to spread all over the Internet that you are a "con artist" or a "scam" and you're out of business. We work extremely hard day and night just to keep up with our very heavy work load. We know that all it takes is just one unhappy nutball to spread all kinds of rumors about our business on the Internet. We do not prepare bankruptcy forms for some customers and then "scam" the rest. It's extremely frustrating to work so hard and have people tell the whole world that you are a "con artist" and a "scam" because they didn't receive their bankruptcy forms (about 60 pages long) as fast as they wanted them. I know bankruptcy attorneys that charge $2,000 for a bankruptcy that have not filed the bankruptcy a year later. But we are the scam artist? People are naturally skeptical about doing business on the Internet in the first place. And then they see our ad on the Internet for a bankruptcy for $195 when everyone else is charging $1,200 - $2,500 or more. So the first thing out of their mouths when they call us is "Is this a scam?" Imagine if every day you go to work you have to listen to people call you up and ask you if your business is a scam. We're sick of it, but we do understand. The reason we only charge $195 is that non-attorney bankruptcy preparer fees are restricted in each jurisdiction. In one district in Tennessee, we can only charge $50 for preparing an entire bankruptcy. Of course, the law in that district has probably not been updated since around 1942. Statistically, at least for our business, the people that typically spread these types of "fraud' accusations on the Internet are people that have been evicted at least two or three times, have numerous charged-off debts, have numerous court judgments against them, and have written numerous bad checks. That's why they want their bankruptcy prepared so fast. And it's also why they have to go to Bank of America to pay for their bankruptcy in the first place because their bank account is overdrafted and shut down. Otherwise, they could pay over the phone for their bankruptcy with a valid bank account. We don't send people to pay at Bank of America because that is our normal form of payment --- we do it because they have no bank account from which to pay us. But we are the scam artist? If you have ever done business on the Internet then you probably already know it's pretty tough because there are, quite frankly, plenty of nuts that will file a complaint about your business at the drop of a hat. They do it to just about every business they come in contact with. And when they do, that's pretty much the end of your business because anyone that looks you up on the Internet thereafter will see that nut's complaint and not want to do business with you. We already learned about using last names on the Internet. When nutballs get your last name they write all kinds of stuff about you on the Internet -- like you are a "con artist" or a "thief", etc. so all of our friends, children and the world can read it. Sorry, but we just don't do it. Anyone that does business on the Internet should not use their last name, either. Sure, we get valid complaints from customers. We're not perfect. I don't know any business that is. And not everyone that complains is a nutball. But people are just so quick to call you a fraud if they don't get their bankruptcy forms as quick as they want them. We give a 3-4 day estimate. We can prepare emergency bankruptcy forms in 1 day if there's an emergency. But that is just an estimate. It doesn't mean we're a "con artist" if it takes an extra few days. Some bankruptcies have complications and sometimes we are just extremely busy. Maybe one of us is sick. If you are getting an entire bankruptcy (about 60 pages of forms) prepared for $195 you'd think that a customer would be a little appreciative, but that's not usually the case. By the way, our headquarters is in Miami (as specifically stated on our website), but we do have bankruptcy preparers in other locations such as Jacksonville. Didn't know that was fraudulent. Kara, we understand your suspicions, but hope you understand that we simply prepare bankruptcy forms and we mean you no harm. We make money by preparing bankruptcy forms --- not from stealing $195.

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