1, Report:
#211578
Posted Date:
Oct 05 2012
Vision Investing,Vision Investing Group, Vision Shane Rawlings, Chad Stubbs ripoff - Short Sale Magic NO RECEIPT OF PRODUCT - 10 WEEKS!! American Fork Utah
I purchased Short Sale Magic in June 2006 for $49. I never received so I called and left message after message. No one ever returned my call. I notified the Attorney General of Texas, Gregg Abbott. The began an investigation. I waited and still no one called. I left another message ...
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Categories: Seminar Programs
2, Report:
#745769
Posted Date:
Jun 27 2011
Vision Investing Group Tom Butler's Short Sale Magic DID NOT DELIVER PROMISED SERVICES, THEIR PRODUCT IS A SCAM, DID NOT REFUND MY $5000 American Fork, Utah
First of all, the materials I received were not complete and using them alone would not have allowed me to complete the short sales as promised. That was the first scam.
Second of all, the coaching sessions were a joke. The coaches just read right out of the manual an...
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Categories: Realtors
3, Report:
#667139
Posted Date:
Jan 04 2011
Vision Investing Group, Tom Butler's Short Sale Magic Very bad customer service, lousy coach Doug Hatch, not what I expected American Fork, Utah
I entered the coaching with Short Sale Magic this year. The salesman was very convincing and I was very excited to start. They gave us a coach but the first session went wrong, the coach forgot to call, after not able to reach the coach I called the Short Sale Magic 888 number and t...
Entity
Categories: Tutoring
4, Report:
#580957
Posted Date:
Mar 15 2010
Tom Butler's Short Sale Magic, Vision Investing Group Vision Investing Group LLC No refund American Fork, Utah
We invested 9,775.00 into a short sale training and coaching program . Signed a contract saying if we did not make our money back in 6 months we would get refund if we proved we had done so many short sale offers. we had 10 phone calls with the coach who really never taught us ...
Entity
Categories: Investment Brokers
5, Report:
#537006
Posted Date:
Dec 10 2009
Tom Butler's Short Sale Magic, Vision Investing Group the vision group False sales presentation, undelivable money back gurantee designed to trap your thousands of dollars with 10 ordinary 40 minutes session! American Fork, Utah
This is a program designed to take thousands of dollars away from you by providing 10 average 40 minutes sessions with common sense information which not necessary working in your current local market. Unethical and dishonest sales presentation with undeliverable money back guarante...
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Categories: Cross-Border Scams
6, Report:
#469173
Posted Date:
Jul 13 2009
Tom Butler's Short Sale Magic And Vision Investing Group, Tom Butler, Tammy Castro, Dan Hekking, Ron Edmonds Refused to be reasonable for a partial refund when I learned the program is illegal in my state. American Fork Utah
Now that I have read 38 Ripoff Reports on Tom Butler's Short Sale Magic I see that I have a lot in common with many of you. One of you said don't walk but RUN. I agree. Take heed and do so now! You will not benefit in any way from involving yourselves with these clever, crafty, ...
Entity
Categories: Adult Career & Continuing Education
7, Report:
#457941
Posted Date:
Jun 03 2009
Tom Butler's Short Sale Magic, Vision Investing Group Misleading Money Back Guarantee, Program Does Not Work as Advertised in My State American Fork Utah
I am a very determined and well-educated individual and I have been ripped-off by Tom Butler and Short Sale Magic.
The financial and emotional stress that it has put me through is significant.
It was the Money Back Guarantee that convinced me to spend $13,500 to enroll in th...
Entity
Categories: Seminar Programs
8, Report:
#439713
Posted Date:
Apr 01 2009
Vision Investing Group, Short Sale Magic Vision Investing Group, Short Sale Magic, Stock Trading Etc, Option Magic This is an absolute manipulation of peoples hopes and dreams for the sole sake of money American Fork Utah
Do not walk but RUN!! from this company and it's myriad of products. They are master manipulators feeding on your hopes and dreams and your access to Credit Card debt.
They represent success on a scale that is completely fraudulent. Sure they may have made a few good trades and s...
Entity
Categories: TV Advertisements
9, Report:
#407900
Posted Date:
Mar 09 2009
Vision Investing Group, Tom Butler's Short Sale Magic Illegal in the State of Florida, Deceptive Practice as per Florida Statutes American Fork Utah
I'm not sure how I got on the Tom Butler's email list, but it was one of the worst things that has ever happened to me.
He advertises this once in a life time opportunity for ordinary people. He is a fabulous salesman and has trained his employees to be great sales people as w...
Entity
Categories: Tutoring
10, Report:
#430434
Posted Date:
Mar 03 2009
Tom Butler's Shortsales Magic Vision Investing Did not provide promised services and products, salesman outright lied American Fork Utah
When i signed up with Tom Butlers shortsales magic the salesman promised things that were never provided. I was ready and motivated to make things happen. the sales man said we would be given a coach that would help us at whatever pace we needed. I did everything my coach Ron Edw...
Entity
Categories: Advertising / Deceptive
11, Report:
#423511
Posted Date:
Feb 12 2009
Tom Butler's Short Sale Magic ,Vision Investing Bait and Switch/Dishonest/Failure to keep promises American Fork Utah
My wife and I enrolled in the Tom Butler's Short Sale Magic program (referred to as the program hereafter) at the Executive Mentoring level on April 21st of 2008. We took the decision to enroll very seriously and were excited to get started. However, many things we were told and whi...
Entity
Categories: Bait-and-Switch
12, Report:
#394807
Posted Date:
Nov 25 2008
Fortress Investments LLC Tom Butler Vision Investing Group LLC tOM bUtLer BS bull sh*t Washington
This ass hole Thomas Butler makes people all excited after they read his book Short Sale Magic and how he guarantees that you will make alteast $25 grand in first 90 days is BS... in his book he is using samples that his company is called Fortress Investments LLC but hi is ripping p...
Entity
Categories: Loans
13, Report:
#384798
Posted Date:
Oct 25 2008
Vision Investing Group this company falsely claimed to have made me an offer for a partial refund American Fork Utah
In March, 2007 I paid Vision Investing Group 15,350$ for for their trade education program. Within a couple weeks I had a serious accident. I sufferred from multiple concussions over the space of a week as a result.
I suffered fron memory loss, physical injury. I could not then ...
Entity
Categories: Adult Career & Continuing Education
14, Report:
#384796
Posted Date:
Oct 25 2008
Vision Investing Group this company falsely claimed to have made me an offer for a partial refund American Fork Utah
In March, 2007 I paid Vision Investing Group 15,350$ for for their trade education program. Within a couple weeks I had a serious accident. I sufferred from multiple concussions over the space of a week as a result.
I suffered fron memory loss, physical injury. I could not then ...
Entity
Categories: Adult Career & Continuing Education
15, Report:
#383229
Posted Date:
Oct 21 2008
Vision Investing Group - Short Sales Magic Fraud, scam won't refund tuition American Fork Utah
I filed a Ripoff report on these businesses a couple months ago and I want to update it. After 5 months of back & forth communications with the top/chiefs, they still will not accept my explanations for a refund. I've also sent complaint reports to: State Atty. General's Consu...
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Categories: TV Advertisements
16, Report:
#348185
Posted Date:
Sep 25 2008
Vision Investing Group LLC, Short Sale Magic Tom Butler, Shane Rawlings, Tammy Castro. They'll do anything to keep your money. Scammers, Hustlers, Hounds, Theives. American Fork Utah
I contacted this company because they claim to have a low risk way of doing real-estate. The salesperson I spoke to kept me pumped up about how easy it will be to make money using their system. When I mentioned that I didn't have much money, the salesperson convinced me to charge it...
Entity
Categories: Tutoring
17, Report:
#369388
Posted Date:
Sep 03 2008
Vision Investing Group - Short Sales Magic SCAM Sr. Citizens and others; a family medical situation occurred AFTER the 3 day rescinding the contract time; they won't accept medical info re the case that was sent to me by my sister-inlaw; the won't even MAKE EXCEPTIONS such as classifying me as a customer who failed the course (which is when they GUARANTEE A FULL tuition REFUND American Fork Utah
Sept. 3, 2008
Vision Investing Grp aka Short Sales Magic is scamming me for over $4,075. bec. they insist I present medical documentation that I would have to help provide 'home care' for a relative. This medical situation occurred after the 3-day contract rescinding time.
I se...
Entity
Categories: Miscellaneous Companies
18, Report:
#356752
Posted Date:
Jul 29 2008
Vision Investing Group Vision Investing Has Crushed Our American Dream Along with Hundred of Others American Fork Utah
Vision Investing takes advantage of people who are in pursuit of the American Dream and rip them off. My husband and I decided to try the short sale/foreclosure business. We gave careful consideration to it and thought quite a long time. We spoke to Deven Webster at Vision Investin...
Entity
Categories: Seminar Programs
19, Report:
#349984
Posted Date:
Jul 11 2008
Vision Investing Group LLC Short Sale Magic Did not provide the proper coaching that was promised American Fork, Utah
This company contacted me by phone and they claim to have a low risk way of doing real-estate. The salesperson I spoke to kept me pumped up about how easy it will be to make money using their system. When I mentioned that I didn't have much money, the salesperson convinced me to cha...
Entity
Categories: Seminar Programs
20, Report:
#339718
Posted Date:
Jun 13 2008
Vision Investing Group LLC, Short-Sale Magic Faulty Guarantee, Poor Customer Service, No Follow-Up American Fork Utah
I signed up for the Short-Sale Magic mentoring program with the Vision Investing Group in AMerican Fork, Utah over a year ago. The opportunity sounded good when it was pitched to me. I paid more than $14,000 to be coached one-on-one to learn how to invest in short-sale real estate...
Entity
Categories: Home Based Business
21, Report:
#338644
Posted Date:
Jun 10 2008
Vision Investing Takes Your Money and Runs American Fork Utah
As Americans we all have a dream. We gave careful consideration to getting involved in a business but we wanted to be trained so we would be successful. We spoke to Devn Webster at Vision Investing and he said we were guaranteed our money back if not satisfied. We charged $16,000 pl...
Entity
Categories: Business Consulting
22, Report:
#271483
Posted Date:
Apr 11 2008
VISION INVESTING GROUP, SHORT SALE MAGIC, TOM BUTLER DID NOT DELIVER PROMISED SERVICES, PRODUCT, ETHICS Ripoff AMERICAN FORK Utah
I PAID 20950.00 FOR THE BEST SERVICE PRODUCT INFORMATION HANDS ON TRAINING AND DID NOT GET ONE SINGLE THING,I WAS TOLD THE COMPANY HAD THE BEST COACHES THAT WOULD WORK WITH ME ALL THE WAY AND NEVER HAD GOT THAT AT ALL EXCUSES LOW QUALITY SLAM DUNK EXPERIENCE.COACHES WOULD NOT EVEN R...
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Categories: Advertising / Deceptive
23, Report:
#295006
Posted Date:
Dec 28 2007
Vision Investing Group Promised a service that they did not meet or atempt to resolve American Fork Utah
I was contacted by Vision Investing Group in Aug/06 inquiring if I would be interested in joining their team and take part in mentoring sessions to become a successful trader on the stock xch.
I asked several questions regarding the program and was ensured that this was a legi...
Entity
Categories: Seminar Programs
24, Report:
#291756
Posted Date:
Dec 15 2007
Vision Investing Group - Thom Butlers Short Sale Magic Robert Williams 888-686-6886 ext 105 American Fork Utah
Robert Williams works for Vison Investing Group as what they call a Senior Director, or an Executive Director. He is not. Do Not Trust Him. He is a Sales Closer - it's his job to take your money, and make you spend more than you should
Vision Investing Group inc. has a sales floo...
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Categories: Telemarketers
25, Report:
#285527
Posted Date:
Nov 20 2007
Vision Investing Group, LLC. IMPORTANT insider information, Ex-employee: Vision Investing Group / Short Sale Magic RIPOFFA former employee of Vision Investing Group (located in American Fork, UT) who had tried to sell me the Short Sale Magic program while he was working for that fraudulent company contacted me recently. He told me that I had made a wise decision in refusing to purchase the program, due to the fact that he ha American Fork Utah
A former employee of Vision Investing Group (located in American Fork, UT) who had tried to sell me the Short Sale Magic program while he was working for that fraudulent company contacted me recently. He told me that I had made a wise decision in refusing to purchase the program, d...
Entity
Categories: Corrupt Companies