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Complaint Review: Wilens & Baker Attorneys - New York New York
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Wilens & Baker Attorneys
450 7th Ave., 12th FL New York, 10123 New York, U.S.A.
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Wilens & Baker Attorneys ----- Divorce Case Rip Off Liar Lawyers *REBUTTAL
A colleague of mine recommended I do business with Wilens & Baker after hearing my concerns reguarding my need for a divorce. This was a little over 2 months ago.
My first consultation was free and I met with Mr. Wilens. He assured me that things would go quick and smooth with the condition that my spouse and I filed for an uncontested and mutually agreed upon divorce. He assured me the fee would be $780.
My second consultation which I expected to be with Mr. Wilens was instead with an associate of his. I attended this consulation with my spouse. The associate charged me now a fee of $830, told me that I eventhough I was paying and asking for the divorce, I should let her be the plaintiff so it could go faster. I questioned it but he assured me that NOTHING WOULD EFFECT ME and that it would not make a difference.
Soon after, I came to find out that now a Kristy Miranda was handling my case and I had no say, no right to any legal advice, and no right to any information about the divorce,my spouse, or the procedures. Everytime I called I was reminded of this even after telling them that that was not what i was told. I was always put on hold or could never get in touch with anyone. They were not willing to listen to me. All I was told was that I was the defendant.
Then my case was given to a Jeanetsie Rivera. Although she was alot nicer she still was unwilling to give any information or understand and address my concerns and situations with Mr. Wilens or Mr. Baker.
Finally, when the paper work seemed to be ready and I appeared at the office to sign, all of the paper work contained a name that was not mine. It wasn't a typo it was a completely different name. To top it off, it was now also a diffent person --Carlos.
After having been given misleading advise; After having payed the full amount and provided most of the paper work; After dealing with the uncooperative and unorganized staff; they had the paper work wrong and were still unwilling to give me any information or advise.
They then redid the paperwork. I went in to sign, my spouse eventually went in to sign. Although I thought this would be the end of this nightmare, another problem appeared.
The staff apologized to my spouse for FORGETTING to inform us that if there is a case in court reguarding our child at the time of the divorce process they cannot continue and we have to wait until that case is done. How does this effect me? Recently my spouse petitioned over visitation rights without knowing that it would put the divorce on hold. Why didn't she know or I know? because the professionals I payed $830 to FORGOT to inform us.
Now, I can wait till the family court case is done, but by then my divorce papers expire.
Wilens & Baker has offered there services past the experiation date for another fee, eventhough this is all there fault to begin with.
Or
I can get my money back ---MY PREFERED CHOICE.
Problem? They said I won't get most of it back because of the time and effort put into the case.
WHAT TIME?
WHAT EFFORT?
Wilens & Baker was UNORGANIZED,UNCOOPERATIVE, AND MOST ALL MISLEADING. They lied to me.
They were unwilling to give information because I was the defendant (advice they gave me) but were more than willing to get my money and my paperwork (the plaintiff was supposed to supply)
My first consultation was free and I met with Mr. Wilens. He assured me that things would go quick and smooth with the condition that my spouse and I filed for an uncontested and mutually agreed upon divorce. He assured me the fee would be $780.
My second consultation which I expected to be with Mr. Wilens was instead with an associate of his. I attended this consulation with my spouse. The associate charged me now a fee of $830, told me that I eventhough I was paying and asking for the divorce, I should let her be the plaintiff so it could go faster. I questioned it but he assured me that NOTHING WOULD EFFECT ME and that it would not make a difference.
Soon after, I came to find out that now a Kristy Miranda was handling my case and I had no say, no right to any legal advice, and no right to any information about the divorce,my spouse, or the procedures. Everytime I called I was reminded of this even after telling them that that was not what i was told. I was always put on hold or could never get in touch with anyone. They were not willing to listen to me. All I was told was that I was the defendant.
Then my case was given to a Jeanetsie Rivera. Although she was alot nicer she still was unwilling to give any information or understand and address my concerns and situations with Mr. Wilens or Mr. Baker.
Finally, when the paper work seemed to be ready and I appeared at the office to sign, all of the paper work contained a name that was not mine. It wasn't a typo it was a completely different name. To top it off, it was now also a diffent person --Carlos.
After having been given misleading advise; After having payed the full amount and provided most of the paper work; After dealing with the uncooperative and unorganized staff; they had the paper work wrong and were still unwilling to give me any information or advise.
They then redid the paperwork. I went in to sign, my spouse eventually went in to sign. Although I thought this would be the end of this nightmare, another problem appeared.
The staff apologized to my spouse for FORGETTING to inform us that if there is a case in court reguarding our child at the time of the divorce process they cannot continue and we have to wait until that case is done. How does this effect me? Recently my spouse petitioned over visitation rights without knowing that it would put the divorce on hold. Why didn't she know or I know? because the professionals I payed $830 to FORGOT to inform us.
Now, I can wait till the family court case is done, but by then my divorce papers expire.
Wilens & Baker has offered there services past the experiation date for another fee, eventhough this is all there fault to begin with.
Or
I can get my money back ---MY PREFERED CHOICE.
Problem? They said I won't get most of it back because of the time and effort put into the case.
WHAT TIME?
WHAT EFFORT?
Wilens & Baker was UNORGANIZED,UNCOOPERATIVE, AND MOST ALL MISLEADING. They lied to me.
They were unwilling to give information because I was the defendant (advice they gave me) but were more than willing to get my money and my paperwork (the plaintiff was supposed to supply)
3 Updates & Rebuttals
Gisel
Jersey City,New Jersey,
Defensive without need
#2Consumer Suggestion
Wed, March 06, 2002
While reading the complaint and the response of the devotee, I could not help but notice how the devotee's comments are simply defensive and irrelevant to the complaint. The devotee offers no solution or structured defense for the firm in question. The devotee used the rebuttal as a tool for offending and degrading the victims decisionmaking and as a mean for defending her role and actions in the matter. The complaint was of W&B, not the devotee. When responding with a rebuttal it should be in defence of the firm not herself. Her technicalities are trivial. The devotee's rebuttal is illogically stated nonsence. The victim's complaint should be acknowledged and viewed as a lesson well learned. His money should be returned. Anything that goes through court is never uncontested.
Sandra
newark,New Jersey,
A response
#3Consumer Comment
Wed, February 20, 2002
I am acquainted with both the victim and the devotee. I am also familiar with the situation at hand. The victim was in need of a divorce and unfortunately accepted what was offered to him by the lawyers. Unaware of the entire legal structure behind a divorce, any one in need of something would concsiously accept the advice of the professionals they are hiring to get the job done. W&B adviced the victim to allow the devotee to become the plaintiff so that the supposed uncontested divorce would fall through alot faster. Add to that the reassurance of being able to contact the lawyers whenever about whatever, and ofcourse the victim will agree. After all,the victim was hiring them for expert legal advice. The devotee in this case was the plaintiff of an uncontested divorce. The devotee is who opened a family court case while being the plaintiff of an UNCONTESTED DIVORCE. Now, does this make sence? A complete contradiction. Regardless of the relationship between the victim and the devotee, there is no excuse for malpractice. The firm should not have advised anyone to allow another to become the plaintiff while reassuring them that they would remain the client of that firm. They took advantage of the victim and misleaded the victim. The divorce never occured, yet W&B kept the money and offered no solution to this case. The solution: don't ever attempt to come to terms with anyone you do not trust. I do not advise anyone to contact Wilens & Baker for an uncontested divorce. Also, educate yourself about legal procedures before pursuing legal representation. As for the devotee's comments: This person's comments are in summary an attempt to mock the victim. ". . .that is what happens when you want something bad enough and you don't think first" her endeavors were soley motivated by mischief and deciet. Her words clearly announce and confirm that the victim was ripped off. Her attempt to justify the victim's misfortune by stating his lack of knowledge about the matter, only strengthens the victim's complaint. Wilens & Baker saw an opportunity to gain easy money and accomplished it. The devotee is childish in her manner of describing the event and is simply happy that she accomplished what she intended to do --- not give the divorce.
HE WENT IN THE LAWYERS ACTING PSYCHO
#40
Wed, June 06, 2001
This email is a rebuttal to RipOff #5321. It was sent by CRYSTAL MOLINA at [email protected]. Wilens & Baker Attorneys ----- Divorce Case Rip Off Liar Lawyers (#5321) They filed the following rebuttal to the above Rip-Off Report: Their email: [email protected] Their name: CRYSTAL MOLINA Their phone number: 718 739-9332 Their relationship to the company: Devotee Rebuttal: I KNOW THIS PERSON AND I AM THE PLANTIF IN THIS CASE. BY LAW HE IS NOT SUPPOSE TO ANY ACCESS TO THE INFORMATION REGARDING THE DIVORCE. HE WENT IN THE LAWYERS ACTING PSYCHO. OF COURSE THEY DID NOT WANT TO HELP HIM AFTER THAT AND HE MADE SUCH A BIG DEAL THEY THOUGHT HE WAS THE CLIENT. 2ND OF ALL THEY WERE ALSO CONFUSED OVER THE MATTER BECAUSE THEY WERE WONDERING WHY WAS HE PAYING FOR THE DIVORCE BUT THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU WANT SOMETHING BAD ENOUGH AND YOU DON'T THINK FIRST. ALSO I WAS THE CLIENT BECAUSE HE WAS BASE ON CRUEL AND INHUMAN TREATMENT WAS THE GROUNDS. THAT IS HOW I BECAME THE CLIENT. ALSO THEIR IS FALSE INFORMATION IN HIS CLAIM AGAINST THEM BECAUSE HE WENT TO THESE SAME LAWYERS ABOUT 2YRS AGO. THANK YOU
