Complaint Review: Wells Fargo Bank - Aurora Colorado

Edgeman stated...

"See? All one has to do is type whacked out and Ronny comes running like on of Pavlovs dogs. Everybody reading this thread should take a moment and look at the vitriol in his post. Rational people simply do not post like this."

Actually, everyone reading this thread should notice Edgemans initial response, which was in typical bank defender fashion, provocative and insulting. Now I do not really need to explain the context in which Edgeman left that comment, which by the way was not help or rebuttal in any way shape or form, but it insinuates those that comment here are "whacked out"..unless of course they agree with Edgmans point of view. He is clearly narcissistic.


"However, I do believe that it is beneficial to keep Ronny posting here at ROR. The more time Ronny spends responding to posts significantly reduces the odds of some poor stranger encountering him on the streets. As a public service to the people of his community, Ill engage Ronny here."

This last comment is ludicrous. It is simply more of his unfounded insinuations and insults.

"First things first. How are you, Ronny? Have you done any littering lately? Have you pursued your whacked out idea of there being only one advocate of responsibility who is posting under multiple screen names? How did that work out for you?"

I am fine. Get over the littering issue, as stated I agree it was disrespectful to throw the McDonalds Cheeseburger out of the window..but it was stinking up the car and not edible. I was stuck in traffic. I threw no paper, only 100% biodegradable organic matter...so get over it.

As far as the multiple screen names..more unfounded nonsense. This is the only screen name I have here and have ever used. YOU on the other hand..admitted openly on this  forum..that this is some kind of school work and the posters here are your "subjects...again this person is a narcissist and a phony and should not be taken seriously. However, I enjoy debunking so I am willing to waste my time with it.

On to your post



"No, only the whacked out users fall under the whacked out" label."

And you are in the position to determine who is whacked out and who is not? Your comment clearly implies that the people who read this and disagree with YOUR side, must be whacked out. The funny thing is, I would not..and did not respond to this poster. I responded directly to you regarding the comment, and defended those that have had issue with Wachovia. Just because someone lodges a complaint you disagree with, does not condem them as whacked out.



"See, this is yet another example of your inability to differentiate what happens inside of your head from the real world. The Op simply wrote that Wachovia was ethical and I had a feeling that the whacked out users would have a problem with that. Under no circumstances does this thread imply that anyone who has filed a complaint against Wachovia is whacked out. (To be honest, only a whacked out person would interpret my post in that fashion.)"

What you posted, is clearly an example of your arrogance and love of provoking and insulting posters here. The insults and lies you say about me personally mean nothing, because I know the TRUTH about you..but others may not..and do not deserve your insinuations, belittling and insults. That simple.

"I simply advised to wait and see what happens when the whacked out users see the line about Wachovia being ethical. Furthermore, you have already proven that your mind is feeble with your lack of understanding a variety of topics such as the First Amendment, Communism, etc..."

Well so far nothing has happened due to the line about Wachovia. It happened because of your provocation. Unless you are seeing other responses no one else is? What this has to do with my understanding of the first amendment and communism, etc. is beyond me..care to explain? I guess you feel you are the only expert on EVERYTHING..and judge others as a whack job and a "subject" of yours. Narcissist.


"Do you even understand the behavioral clues about yourself that you leave when you write things like this? You should take courses in profiling. Interesting stuff."

Glad you find the truth about yourself "interesting" Use it in your thesis you big phony.

"Incidentally, I'm on the side that advocates paying the banks no unnecessary fees. That's not taking joy in the loss of others, that is trying to keep peoples' money where it belongs - in their accounts."

I will never believe you genuinely care, or even care a little about other peoples loss. Narcissist.


"I don't expect the OP's post to change anybody's attitude about Wachovia. I simply expect the whacked out people to take exception to somebody referring to wachovia as ethical."

Why? Could it be that because YOU feel someone may take exception to another referring to Wachovia as ethical, that they are hereby declared "whacked out" ? I personally have no problem with someone stating Wachovia or any bank did something ethical. It is actually refreshing to hear. What is annoying, was your insulting and provocative comment that served no useful purpose to the bank, this site..or the OP. Now on the other hand..was it "whacked out" of me to decide to be the one to put you in your place?,or even notice you? I am sure you think so, and I couldn't care less.



"Out of curiosity, how many of those people caused their problems by negligent management of their accounts? How many of those people agreed that Wachovia could process transactions in any order and to pay and all overdraft fees generated by the consumer?"

Most likely according to you...everyone. And this last statement shows the true colors of this narcissist . What is he gaining by placing all the blame on the consumers? And using buzz words like "negligent" when it may have been an honest mistake or a swindle. It's a personal thing for Edgemen to belittle the victims of unfair and unethical policies..for no reason. That seems a little whacked out. Would there be so many complaints, lawsuits, negative press and pressure from congress just to help some whacked out negligent people?


"Once again you are confusing the world that you created inside of your head with the real world. All I did was comment that the whacked out people wouldn't like the statement of Wachovia being ethical. that's all. Fin."

Fin indeed. You sure had a  lot to say to me though.

"You take that comment and create motivations for me inside of your head. That would be fine if you kept it to yourself but you are trying to apply these motivations to somebody who actually exists in the real world. It would be in your best interests if you learned to separate the world inside of your head with the real world. You simply will not be successful here in the real world if you keep retreating to the world inside of your head."

There is no need for YOU to create a world inside my head. I state the obvious as I can comprehend and I have been through this enough with you to have a pretty good idea what your motives are. YOU create what others think of you..nothing is made up. Phony narcissist, and that is being very nice.

See? All one has to do is type whacked out and Ronny comes running like on of Pavlovs dogs. Everybody reading this thread should take a moment and look at the vitriol in his post. Rational people simply do not post like this.

However, I do believe that it is beneficial to keep Ronny posting here at ROR. The more time Ronny spends responding to posts significantly reduces the odds of some poor stranger encountering him on the streets. As a public service to the people of his community, Ill engage Ronny here.

First things first. How are you, Ronny? Have you done any littering lately? Have you pursued your whacked out idea of there being only one advocate of responsibility who is posting under multiple screen names? How did that work out for you?

On to your post

"So..anyone who feels Wachovia/Wells Fargo has been dishonest or unethical is "whacked out"?

No, only the whacked out users fall under the whacked out" label.

"Of the thousands and THOUSANDS of reports lodged here alone (not including the millions of customers who have lodged complaints and filed lawsuits elsewhere) finally ONE...yes ONE single person reports here that Wachovia did the right thing..and suddenly that in your feeble mind justifies everything unethical they have ever done before..and classifies every one who has lodged a complaint against them as "whacked out"?

See, this is yet another example of your inability to differentiate what happens inside of your head from the real world. The Op simply wrote that Wachovia was ethical and I had a feeling that the whacked out users would have a problem with that. Under no circumstances does this thread imply that anyone who has filed a complaint against Wachovia is whacked out. (To be honest, only a whacked out person would interpret my post in that fashion.)

I simply advised to wait and see what happens when the whacked out users see the line about Wachovia being ethical. Furthermore, you have already proven that your mind is feeble with your lack of understanding a variety of topics such as the First Amendment, Communism, etc...

"You have probably been dreaming of this day being the lifeless, trolling, deceptive and manipulative bank defender you are...and for no personal gain other then the joy you receive from the loss of others"

Do you even understand the behavioral clues about yourself that you leave when you write things like this? You should take courses in profiling. Interesting stuff.

Incidentally, I'm on the side that advocates paying the banks no unnecessary fees. That's not taking joy in the loss of others, that is trying to keep peoples' money where it belongs - in their accounts.

"but unfortunately for you..it does not cut it, not by a long shot. Those victimized by Wachovia/Wells Fargo will not feel this report excuses the consistent unethical practices which have landed Wachovia/Wells Fargo as major defendants in past and current  lawsuits"

I don't expect the OP's post to change anybody's attitude about Wachovia. I simply expect the whacked out people to take exception to somebody referring to wachovia as ethical.

"and the financial pillaging they have thrust upon honest, loyal customers during an economic crisis."

Out of curiosity, how many of those people caused their problems by negligent management of their accounts? How many of those people agreed that Wachovia could process transactions in any order and to pay and all overdraft fees generated by the consumer?

"What is truly "whacked out"...is someone like yourself anxiously awaiting for the day when someone actually says something good about a bank so you can state those who feel different are whacked out....and for no apparent reason..or perhaps you have a reason you wish to share with us?"

Once again you are confusing the world that you created inside of your head with the real world. All I did was comment that the whacked out people wouldn't like the statement of Wachovia being ethical. that's all. Fin.

You take that comment and create motivations for me inside of your head. That would be fine if you kept it to yourself but you are trying to apply these motivations to somebody who actually exists in the real world. It would be in your best interests if you learned to separate the world inside of your head with the real world. You simply will not be successful here in the real world if you keep retreating to the world inside of your head.

Wachovia..reports filed here to date...846

Wells Fargo...reports filed here to date...1446

Those are just who reported here. Most have not reported here but are still victims of Wachovias tactics. If this customer remains with Wachovia long enough...little difference will be noted between the way they conduct business whether called Wachovia..or Wells Fargo.  I have noticed little difference between the two, however this customer was quite fortunate to be on the "customer" side of the pillaging policy. It could have easily gone the other way.

This customer will surely learn in time..that terms the bank use such as "protection" and "courtesy" and "available" are all a sham.

So..anyone who feels Wachovia/Wells Fargo has been dishonest or unethical is "whacked out"?

Of the thousands and THOUSANDS of reports lodged here alone (not including the millions of customers who have lodged complaints and filed lawsuits elsewhere) finally ONE...yes ONE single person reports here that Wachovia did the right thing..and suddenly that in your feeble mind justifies everything unethical they have ever done before..and classifies every one who has lodged a complaint against them as "whacked out"?

You have probably been dreaming of this day being the lifeless, trolling, deceptive and manipulative bank defender you are...and for no personal gain other then the joy you receive from the loss of others, but unfortunately for you..it does not cut it, not by a long shot. Those victimized by Wachovia/Wells Fargo will not feel this report excuses the consistent unethical practices which have landed Wachovia/Wells Fargo as major defendants in past and current  lawsuits..and the financial pillaging they have thrust upon honest, loyal customers during an economic crisis.

What is truly "whacked out"...is someone like yourself anxiously awaiting for the day when someone actually says something good about a bank so you can state those who feel different are whacked out....and for no apparent reason..or perhaps you have a reason you wish to share with us?

Wow, wait until some of the more whacked out people here read that.