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  • Report:  #1433104

Complaint Review: Trading University - Pleasant Grove Utah

Reported By:
Joseph - Sherman, Texas, United States
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Trading University
Pleasant Grove, Utah, United States
Web:
www.whatifequities.com
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Whatifequities.com is a subsidary if you will of Trading University.  This has to do with Day Trading Forex, Futures, Equities...ect on line.  They boast having an indicator system that will give you a 90% success rate if you use it. (it works).  Thats not the point.  What if Equities has 4 Education Trading platorms that you can subscribe to with different prices ( the most expensive being over $15k).  After passing the curriculum you have the pleasure of trading the companies money and you can only win,...all loses are absorbed by the company.  

I subscribed to the lowest program ($449) to test the software (indicators and chart) which will cost you an additional $350 per month once you subscribe to the upper programs ($15k and $7.5k respectively).  

Since I have already received a ton of education on trading (two different companies), I decided that I just want to utilize the software and chart, and BTW I was more than willing to pay the $350 per month!! It is wonderful software, and the past week I have made a ton of money!

The catch is, as I found out subsequently, that I have to invest in one of the programs to keep on using the software.  So I need to fork out another $15k or $7.5k for an education that I already have, just to be able to utilize the monthly software dues.  I DONT WANT TO TRADE THEIR MONEY!! I HAVE MY OWN ACCOUNT, AND DOING WELL WITH THE SOFTWARE.  Again I will allude to the charts and indicators as being great.  

Why cant I use the indicators and charts for a fee?  Does not make sense at all?  I told one of the partners (I will honorably withhold his name) that I can come trade for them right now and make them money.  But they want the Curriculum fees.  

I told the Partner that I was making $750 per day (and I am), since I started using the indicators!!  He promptly says, that at that rate I would have the $15k paid off in a month?  My thought is, if i am making this kind of money with the software, why in the hell do I need to pay the tuition?  



1 Updates & Rebuttals

Harry J

Utah,
Utah,
United States
My Year With What If Equities

#2Consumer Comment

Wed, April 11, 2018

First off like the anonymous post above it does work! Hi, My name is Harry J. I am a resident of Utah and have been a long time standing customer of What If Equities / Day Trade Our Money. I want to start by stating that I get this is not for everyone. Some of us have been, will be employees our entire life and there is nothing wrong with that. I started as an employee as well and it was hard to make sense of spending money to make money. What If Equities does cost money. I enrolled in one of their coaching programs and man I can remember how when I was testing it like the guy above I couldn't believe how well this worked. After the coaching it got even better! I spent about $6,000 for coaching and I pay around $300 a month ongoing as I trade. For me i recoup my trading costs in about the first or second day of trading. This leaves me with the rest of the month for profits to me. I also trade a corporate account that was funded and the company splits profits each month. It was a little hard to swallow the initial fee but I saw a 2 month break even and have never looked back. 

I don't completely understand the business side of things however I get that the company wouldn't be able to coach me, provide all the materials I have and continued education on just my monthly fee. I don't know if the person who wrote this just typed the written price to try the product but I got to try it for $100 not ($449). That is just the list price and I am sure you didn't pay that amount to try the product. I also got a free month of indicators for 30 days to try it. The way I understood it and it was told to me was I would pay $100 and get to fully try the program and have my $300 a month waived while doing so. I did exactly that, was grateful for the easy entry to try this and fell in love! I upgraded about 3 weeks in to a program called the Trader Pro Funding where at the end of 9 weeks I was funded a corporate account and I funded my own account with my broker. I wont go into full details about what my financial situation looks like now, but I will says I have never worked a job again and I should have my house free and clear by the end of the calendar year. VERY EXCITING FOR ME!!

From the comments above I would say I think its great that you have lots of past trading experience. In fact I think you are probably a better trader than most. I also get how it would be upsetting to not have a way to do this given you don't want to pay to use these amazing tools as you have even said. I mean 90% accuracy is insane! I don't know if you will ever read this again or look at the responses but I would encourage you to take the leap and risk to really have what you want. The company has a very clear way of doing things. I complied and my results have been amazing. I often wonder if I would have gotten tripped up had I just done what you suggested and not taken the coaching. 

Ultimately I think it is just a choice to decide what is right for you. The company clearly hasn't ripped you off which has me wonder why the posting, and I can see in your comments that you see how amazing their product is. Now you just get to make a choice and maybe you have. I can't tell you how grateful I was to have found a company that would let me try their product before I bought. So many scams wont let you test. 

I also get once I paid my level of commitment was much higher. I started taking this more serious. From my past I used to live like it was the big guys job or the corporations job to ensure my success and safety. It took a change in my view to see how to actually get what I wanted. I am stating this as the above commenter asked "why the hell do I have to pay the tuition?" The answer is simple. If I were to become a doctor who all generally make 100K + a year why don't the hospitals just pay for me to go to school to work for them. If I were to start a Mc Donald’s that generally make 100k - 250k a year why do I need to buy a million dollar franchise. I think it has something to do with commitment a commodity which is running low in this country. I fear we are starting to get lazy as a population. We expect handouts and freebies. Or when things don't look the way we want to we expect them to change just for us. 

Day Trading has changed my life, I think I know the founder you are referencing and if it is him I cant tell you how grateful I am that he shared this with me. Again I get it is not for everyone. My experience is mine but it has worked for me. I think the author above did a fair job giving credit where credit was due. I think the upset is not having the money when the opportunity presented itself and maybe that time will come later for you. 

As a side note as a newly learning business owner I was able to write off all my tuition costs and trading fees for last year and paid less in taxes than I ever have. I just don't get the upset I guess. 

I don't know if I will get in trouble for this but here is how I chose to do the program I did. 

Trader Executive Trader Executive Receives:

  • One year of Membership and Indicators included
  • Two days of personalized coaching at our office
  • Exclusive meeting with founders over a meal
  • 12 weeks of personalized coaching (twice a week)
  • Step-by-step software set-up assistance
  • Access to all Basic & Advanced Online Training
  • Access to weekly Continued Education
  • Access to all daily Webinars and ONIT
  • Active paper trading with coach
  • Access to the Trader Chat
  • Benefits of lower packages
  • A trading account funded up to $100,000 upon successful course completion

 Members trading with Corporate-Funded accounts keep 80% of profits earned 

Trader Pro Funding Trader Pro Funding Receives:

  • 9 weeks of personalized coaching (twice a week)
  • Step-by-step software set-up assistance
  • Access to all basic & advanced training material
  • Access to weekly Continued Education
  • Access to LIVE daily Webinars and ONIT
  • Active paper trading with coach
  • Access to the Trader Chat
  • Benefits of lower packages
  • A trading account funded up to $50,000 upon successful course completion 

Members trading with Corporate-Funded accounts keep 60% of profits earned

Trader Pro Trader Pro Receives:

  • 6 weeks of personalized coaching (twice a week)
  • Step-by-step software set-up assistance
  • Access to all basic & advanced training material
  • Access to weekly Continued Education
  • Access to LIVE daily Webinars and ONIT
  • Active paper trading with coach
  • Access to the Trader Chat
  • Benefits of lower packages

Trader Lite Trader Lite Receives:

  • Online Step-by-step software set-up assistance
  • Access to all basic training material
  • Access to weekly Continued Education
  • Access to LIVE daily Webinars and ONIT
  • Access to the Lite Trader Chat

 

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