- Report: #19447
Complaint Review: OneQwest.com/United Net Services/PAP.com - Ft. Lauderdale, FL Florida
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OneQwest.com/United Net Services/PAP.com
2000 W. Commercial Blvd, Suite 133 Ft. Lauderdale, FL, 33309 Florida, U.S.A.
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OneQwest.com/United Net Services/PAP.com ripoff ripoff business from hell cheated employees and screwed the customers even more ripoff business from hell Ft. Lauderdale, Florida *UPDATE
*Consumer Suggestion: If it walks like a duck .....
*Consumer Suggestion: If it walks like a duck .....
*Consumer Suggestion: If it walks like a duck .....
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: You are so misinformed
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: You are so misinformed
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: You are so misinformed
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: You are so misinformed
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*Consumer Comment: Very Misinformed
This company is promising huge future profits on a very flawed business plan. They think their internet based pay phone will compete with Qwest Communications so much that they started out even using their name! Qwest got a restraining order against them in a heartbeat!
Their Business plan is to provide these internet based kiosks in malls, hotels and airports for visitors to use with a credit card to access the internet to read, write and even check their emails and search the internet at .25 cents a minute with an 8 minute minimun charge. While doing so you can also make a free long distance call to anyone in the world....supposedly! These displays supposedly cost $25,000 a piece to make and the site owner will only recieve 10 cents a minute used for rental reimbursements.
They are charging $1,375 for a full membership in the program and at the time of writting would only accept cashier checks or money orders for payment. Out of those fees then $375 would be given to the person who brought you into the company and also his sponsor for recruiting you! That is a classic description of a ponzi scheme and their are numerous federal and state agencies looking into this company right now! Among them are the FBI, Florida Attorney General and Better Business Bureau and also the Federal Justice Department and Trade Commissions! The company founder's also have a past history of screwing their members in other internet ventures!
Their is a quasi branch of the company called PAP.com who promised to provide you 25 sign-ups for $1,000 or 250 for $10,000 and then they will do everything possible to get them to upgrade to a paid membership! Your not to attempt to contact them since they are the professionals! In a recent email from the company they stated that PAP doesn' have a position in the company downline and only are hired on a commission basis to convert FREE members into paying ones. However in looking at their database they show many positions held by the PAP and their founder!
Right now their is no product for them to market either since they do not have any of the koisks in the public domain except for a Howard Johnson's in Florida. When you upgrade your provided 8,000 minutes each month that the company will attempt to sell for you and also another 6,000 minutes for FREE since you upgraded. If the minutes do not sell then your back to relying on the ponzi payments.
I have called the Mall of America and also the International Airport in Minnesota and they have had no inquiries for providing space to this company and the Mall gets at least $10,000 a month for providing space and are open only enough hours each month to generate about $2,500 each month in rental commissions if the machine was used every minute of the month. Something tells me that the #1 tourist destination in the US will not be having any of their koisks!
Kevin
Gaylord, Minnesota
Their Business plan is to provide these internet based kiosks in malls, hotels and airports for visitors to use with a credit card to access the internet to read, write and even check their emails and search the internet at .25 cents a minute with an 8 minute minimun charge. While doing so you can also make a free long distance call to anyone in the world....supposedly! These displays supposedly cost $25,000 a piece to make and the site owner will only recieve 10 cents a minute used for rental reimbursements.
They are charging $1,375 for a full membership in the program and at the time of writting would only accept cashier checks or money orders for payment. Out of those fees then $375 would be given to the person who brought you into the company and also his sponsor for recruiting you! That is a classic description of a ponzi scheme and their are numerous federal and state agencies looking into this company right now! Among them are the FBI, Florida Attorney General and Better Business Bureau and also the Federal Justice Department and Trade Commissions! The company founder's also have a past history of screwing their members in other internet ventures!
Their is a quasi branch of the company called PAP.com who promised to provide you 25 sign-ups for $1,000 or 250 for $10,000 and then they will do everything possible to get them to upgrade to a paid membership! Your not to attempt to contact them since they are the professionals! In a recent email from the company they stated that PAP doesn' have a position in the company downline and only are hired on a commission basis to convert FREE members into paying ones. However in looking at their database they show many positions held by the PAP and their founder!
Right now their is no product for them to market either since they do not have any of the koisks in the public domain except for a Howard Johnson's in Florida. When you upgrade your provided 8,000 minutes each month that the company will attempt to sell for you and also another 6,000 minutes for FREE since you upgraded. If the minutes do not sell then your back to relying on the ponzi payments.
I have called the Mall of America and also the International Airport in Minnesota and they have had no inquiries for providing space to this company and the Mall gets at least $10,000 a month for providing space and are open only enough hours each month to generate about $2,500 each month in rental commissions if the machine was used every minute of the month. Something tells me that the #1 tourist destination in the US will not be having any of their koisks!
Kevin
Gaylord, Minnesota
9 Updates & Rebuttals
Lou
Eldred,New York,
You are so misinformed
#2REBUTTAL Owner of company
Tue, May 07, 2002
You think you know everything don't you? Have you traveled to their meetings and sat in on what this company is about. Of course not!
Not only have I seen these state of the art machines but I have friends who actually visited their and used them. They have pictures and have actually sent video emails back to us from the kiosk.
Face it.. this company is for real. ABC news did a 2 minute segment on these same machines. I guess they are full of it also right? Interviewing all the people involved and showing the people using these same machines. Even going to the locations and watching people use them.
I could care less if you believe me or not it's your loss. They will also be offering much more than just these kiosks (which you do not buy fool) you earn commission off the minutes sold. And guess what.... people are using them and we will be getting paid from that usage.
These are not ranky dank machines either. I don't know what pictures your seeing but you need to get your eyes checked. These machines weigh 400 pounds and stand 6 feet tall and cost $30,000 to build. Again, it's too bad you don't have your stupid facts straight. Here is the number by the way. 1-866-275-0958
Please do me a favor...and DON'T join us! I would hate to know that I had a hand in making you money! peace
Lou
Eldred,New York,
You are so misinformed
#3REBUTTAL Owner of company
Tue, May 07, 2002
You think you know everything don't you? Have you traveled to their meetings and sat in on what this company is about. Of course not!
Not only have I seen these state of the art machines but I have friends who actually visited their and used them. They have pictures and have actually sent video emails back to us from the kiosk.
Face it.. this company is for real. ABC news did a 2 minute segment on these same machines. I guess they are full of it also right? Interviewing all the people involved and showing the people using these same machines. Even going to the locations and watching people use them.
I could care less if you believe me or not it's your loss. They will also be offering much more than just these kiosks (which you do not buy fool) you earn commission off the minutes sold. And guess what.... people are using them and we will be getting paid from that usage.
These are not ranky dank machines either. I don't know what pictures your seeing but you need to get your eyes checked. These machines weigh 400 pounds and stand 6 feet tall and cost $30,000 to build. Again, it's too bad you don't have your stupid facts straight. Here is the number by the way. 1-866-275-0958
Please do me a favor...and DON'T join us! I would hate to know that I had a hand in making you money! peace
Lou
Eldred,New York,
You are so misinformed
#4REBUTTAL Owner of company
Tue, May 07, 2002
You think you know everything don't you? Have you traveled to their meetings and sat in on what this company is about. Of course not!
Not only have I seen these state of the art machines but I have friends who actually visited their and used them. They have pictures and have actually sent video emails back to us from the kiosk.
Face it.. this company is for real. ABC news did a 2 minute segment on these same machines. I guess they are full of it also right? Interviewing all the people involved and showing the people using these same machines. Even going to the locations and watching people use them.
I could care less if you believe me or not it's your loss. They will also be offering much more than just these kiosks (which you do not buy fool) you earn commission off the minutes sold. And guess what.... people are using them and we will be getting paid from that usage.
These are not ranky dank machines either. I don't know what pictures your seeing but you need to get your eyes checked. These machines weigh 400 pounds and stand 6 feet tall and cost $30,000 to build. Again, it's too bad you don't have your stupid facts straight. Here is the number by the way. 1-866-275-0958
Please do me a favor...and DON'T join us! I would hate to know that I had a hand in making you money! peace
Lou
Eldred,New York,
You are so misinformed
#5REBUTTAL Owner of company
Tue, May 07, 2002
You think you know everything don't you? Have you traveled to their meetings and sat in on what this company is about. Of course not!
Not only have I seen these state of the art machines but I have friends who actually visited their and used them. They have pictures and have actually sent video emails back to us from the kiosk.
Face it.. this company is for real. ABC news did a 2 minute segment on these same machines. I guess they are full of it also right? Interviewing all the people involved and showing the people using these same machines. Even going to the locations and watching people use them.
I could care less if you believe me or not it's your loss. They will also be offering much more than just these kiosks (which you do not buy fool) you earn commission off the minutes sold. And guess what.... people are using them and we will be getting paid from that usage.
These are not ranky dank machines either. I don't know what pictures your seeing but you need to get your eyes checked. These machines weigh 400 pounds and stand 6 feet tall and cost $30,000 to build. Again, it's too bad you don't have your stupid facts straight. Here is the number by the way. 1-866-275-0958
Please do me a favor...and DON'T join us! I would hate to know that I had a hand in making you money! peace
Lawrence
Phoenix,Arizona,
If it walks like a duck .....
#6Consumer Suggestion
Sun, May 05, 2002
In the last few days I've received two emails about this stupid Internet Kiosk thing. Both emails claimed I could make big bucks just sitting at my computer for an hour a day. Each email sent me to a different site. One site wanted me to give them my information so they could contact me. Fat chance, Buckoo!
The other site (www.easy-signup.com/dd/) showed a picture of a really ugly and uninviting contraption. These people imply that they are selling this kiosk but their site gives no info about their product, only about their Multi-Level Marketing scheme. Classic rip-off material. Do you know anyone who ever made any money in an MLM?
I did a WHOIS on the site and the registration came back to Stargate Communications, whose web site is www.stargateinc.com. They seem to specialize in hosting sleezeballs who want to keep their identities concealed. Another good reason to be suspicious.
Here's the real kicker. To get any more info about the Internet Kiosk MLM rip-off scam you have to register. To register, you have to give them your birthdate and SSN. Send me your birthdate and SSN and I can destroy you. No way should you ever give out that info to someone you don't know. Birthdate and SSN are the keys to identity theft. Keep away from these characters!
Funny that the guy from New York who defended this outfit did not bother to give the "correct" business name or phone number. Funny, too, that all the locations he says the kiosks are installed are a long way from his home. Do you think he actually has seen these or is he just repeating unverified information?
Lawrence
Phoenix,Arizona,
If it walks like a duck .....
#7Consumer Suggestion
Sun, May 05, 2002
In the last few days I've received two emails about this stupid Internet Kiosk thing. Both emails claimed I could make big bucks just sitting at my computer for an hour a day. Each email sent me to a different site. One site wanted me to give them my information so they could contact me. Fat chance, Buckoo!
The other site (www.easy-signup.com/dd/) showed a picture of a really ugly and uninviting contraption. These people imply that they are selling this kiosk but their site gives no info about their product, only about their Multi-Level Marketing scheme. Classic rip-off material. Do you know anyone who ever made any money in an MLM?
I did a WHOIS on the site and the registration came back to Stargate Communications, whose web site is www.stargateinc.com. They seem to specialize in hosting sleezeballs who want to keep their identities concealed. Another good reason to be suspicious.
Here's the real kicker. To get any more info about the Internet Kiosk MLM rip-off scam you have to register. To register, you have to give them your birthdate and SSN. Send me your birthdate and SSN and I can destroy you. No way should you ever give out that info to someone you don't know. Birthdate and SSN are the keys to identity theft. Keep away from these characters!
Funny that the guy from New York who defended this outfit did not bother to give the "correct" business name or phone number. Funny, too, that all the locations he says the kiosks are installed are a long way from his home. Do you think he actually has seen these or is he just repeating unverified information?
Lawrence
Phoenix,Arizona,
If it walks like a duck .....
#8Consumer Suggestion
Sun, May 05, 2002
In the last few days I've received two emails about this stupid Internet Kiosk thing. Both emails claimed I could make big bucks just sitting at my computer for an hour a day. Each email sent me to a different site. One site wanted me to give them my information so they could contact me. Fat chance, Buckoo!
The other site (www.easy-signup.com/dd/) showed a picture of a really ugly and uninviting contraption. These people imply that they are selling this kiosk but their site gives no info about their product, only about their Multi-Level Marketing scheme. Classic rip-off material. Do you know anyone who ever made any money in an MLM?
I did a WHOIS on the site and the registration came back to Stargate Communications, whose web site is www.stargateinc.com. They seem to specialize in hosting sleezeballs who want to keep their identities concealed. Another good reason to be suspicious.
Here's the real kicker. To get any more info about the Internet Kiosk MLM rip-off scam you have to register. To register, you have to give them your birthdate and SSN. Send me your birthdate and SSN and I can destroy you. No way should you ever give out that info to someone you don't know. Birthdate and SSN are the keys to identity theft. Keep away from these characters!
Funny that the guy from New York who defended this outfit did not bother to give the "correct" business name or phone number. Funny, too, that all the locations he says the kiosks are installed are a long way from his home. Do you think he actually has seen these or is he just repeating unverified information?
Lou
Eldred,New York,
Very Misinformed
#9Consumer Comment
Tue, April 30, 2002
The gentleman who made up this report is so misinformed. I won't waste my time to even discredit him accept to say there are numerous Kiosks out in numerous locations.
These machines have been operating for a month now all over South Florida. They never ever mentioned competing with Qwest communications. Again more fabrication from a very jealous person who missed his opportunity.
Here are the addresses of the locations operating these kiosks.
Sands Harbor Hotel 125 N. Riverside Dr. Pompano Beach, FL 33062
Sawgrass Ford 14501 West Sunrise Boulevard Fort Lauderdale, FL 33323
Howard Johnson's 2096 Northeast 2nd Street Deerfield Beach, FL 33441
Radisson Resort 11775 Heron Bay Boulevard Coral Springs, FL 33076
Hot Dogs Sports Pub 4528 North University Drive Lauderhill, FL 33351
Four Points Hotel 1208 North Ocean Boulevard Pompano Beach, FL 33062
All his facts are wrong. The price is wrong ...what you recieve is wrong...even the phone number he posted is wrong. Please remove his rediculous report as it is nothing but hogwash. What a joke he is.
#100
Fri, April 26, 2002
They are now claiming that they have one kiosk in operation at a Howard Johnson's in Fort Lauderdale and are making about $200 a day from it in usage fees. I called the only HJ's in that city and they said they don't have a machine and this came from the conceige and the front desk staff. They also referred my name and number to the operations department and I expect a call from them soon!
