Complaint Review: Navah LLC - Bend Oregon

  I want to address the accusations made here by Derek because I’m greatly disturbed by it. Full disclosure, Joseph Dalton/Navah LLC saved my marriage. I’m not overstating things when I say, if it wasn’t for Joseph I wouldn’t be married right now. We were at our wits end, about to get divorced, had already seen multiple counselors... when we finally went to see Joseph. He dealt with both my wife and I and our issues. (He didn’t just focus on me.) Thank God, he connected us to each other in a way I never thought possible. I know SO many people (single, married, etc) who have the same story of healing. It has to be said, a counselor can be defined as a pastor or person in leadership, who isn’t licensed but is respected for his/her guidance and advice... OR as a person who is licensed as an MFT, Psychologist, Psychotherapist, etc. Joseph has never claimed to be a licensed Psychologist, which I’m bringing up because Derek seems very concerned with that fact. Also, he has mentioned that their church referred them to Joseph, which implies some type of Christian counseling (again, not all counselors are licensed). But he seems to think that praying and talking to Jesus is "engaging in some type of mysticism”. I’m confused by this, since a HUGE part of Christianity is praying and engaging with Jesus in some form or another. Why is there confusion about this? Being referred to a counselor by my pastor, I would expect that counselor to pray. And to ask me to pray. If all I wanted was a Licensed Psychologist or MFT, I would just google one in my area. I’m sorry his wife took their child and left him but I doubt very much it had anything to do with Joseph Dalton. There are two sides to every story and There were obviously some deep rooted issues before Joseph came along. How many times has a husband or wife not realized this until their spouse has left? I suspect this situation is no different. Also, why is the reviewer upset that Joseph asked him to address being sexual with his wife while being completely disconnected to his wife? Most people I’ve talked to DON’T want to have sex when the other person is out of it. Weird that the reviewer is writing a review and bringing up his sex life, while also not understanding sex 101....be present with the person you’re having sex with or they won’t want to have sex with you. I wonder what the wife’s side of the story is. Also, he seems to be very concerned with Joseph allegedly not being in business for 11 years. I know of people who saw him 10 years ago (word of mouth is how we found Joseph). It’s interesting that he would assume Joseph was not in business just because Navah, LLC wasn’t around yet. Many people start careers and then later decide to take on a bigger vision and establish an actual company. Is it possible that’s what happened with Navah? There are certainly many examples of this in the business world. Sara Blakely, who invented Spanx, is one such example. To address Regression therapy and hypnotherapy. Joseph never used any type of hypnotherapy with us or any of the people I’ve spoken to who have seen him (of which there are many). Also, here’s a definition of Regression Therapy...”Regression therapy is a specific approach to psychotherapy that helps people improve their emotional and cognitive health by resolving past events from their earlier life or past lives.” In no way, at any time, did Joseph talk about past lives or earlier lives. We spoke in depth about both our childhoods (which is typical). Joseph is the most non-judgmental person I’ve ever met and I know his practice deals with Christians and non-Christians but no one I’ve ever spoken with has said he dives into past lives or an earlier life. It’s crazy to think someone is saying Joseph does this. All in all, I’ll be forever grateful I went to Navah/Joseph Dalton. He saved our family.

For reference... Joseph Dalton and his counseling SAVED my marriage. And he has never claimed to be a licensed psychologist. (Not to me or my husband personally or on his website). I know of at least 5 other couples with the same story (not just 2 or 3 men but multiple COUPLES who wouldn’t be together if not for Joseph). Some of the couples I know saw Joseph a long time ago, 10-11 years, so this guy’s ranting is garbage on that front.

If my husband and I had seen Joseph when our friends first told us about him 10 years ago our marriage would have been MUCH different, for the better. However, when we finally decided to seek help from him last September, he certainly didn’t focus all the blame onto my husband. But, to be fair we were BOTH at our wits end and almost at divorce courts door and my husband was willing to do the work with me. Joseph spoke to my husband and I about BOTH our failings and the pain we had caused eachother.

Also, from a woman’s perspective...I agree with Joseph, if my husband were constantly trying to have sex with me (or actually having sex with me) while he was completely disconnected and somewhere else, I’d feel violated too. I get what this man’s wife was feeling. There are two sides to every story and I’d be careful to form an opinion when reading a review like Derek’s. I doubt very much this man’s wife left him and took their child all because of Joseph Dalton. Sounds like she was having serious issues with this guy way before Joseph showed up.

Here’s a more succinct account about my experience with Joseph.... Words can not describe how thankful, grateful and in awe I am over our time with Joseph last September. He counseled my sister and when I saw the enormous change in her, I decided to talk to my husband. Just a little background, we were about to get divorced. We decided that we had nothing to lose and agreed that if this counseling (we had gone through counseling before) didn’t work, we’d end our marriage. So we got a personal loan (that’s how serious we were), flew out to Bend, got an Airbnb and spent a week with Joseph. We both come from abusive backgrounds and had brought all that into our marriage and into our lives in general.

Thank you God, because our time with Joseph changed our lives and saved our marriage. I’ll personally never be the same and my marriage will never be the same. We’re actually the best of friends now. I wish I could detail here all we learned and everything that happened. But I’ll just leave it at this. Joseph is open, kind, peaceful and the most non-judgmental person I’ve ever met. And we (this is CRUCIAL) were willing to learn, do the work, be as humble/honest with each other as possible and were willing to drop/resolve our anger. No amount of counseling will help you if you’re not willing (or your spouse isn’t willing) to do the work. That said, you’re crazy if you don’t get to Navah and Joseph as soon as possible!! ♥️

Navah Bend and NavahRetreats.com are a scam.

Josh,

Firstly, you don't know me. But, I will engage your reply point by point. (By the way, no claims I'm making with regard to Dalton's Navah Bend LLC practice are false. Dalton is a scammer with NO license.) Navahretreats.com reads like a future cult commune.

You said...

I have known Joseph personally for many years, and all of what you are saying is false:

DEREK: Prove that what I'm saying is false. He has no license. He's engaged in bizarre mysticism. Additionally, he breached confidentiality by discussing our counseling sessions with my wife's personal therapist. Is that ethical? No.

You can see it in your post that you have a lot problems - the first major blaring one being that you're blaming another human for your issues (first sign of delusion) - its seeping through all of your words.

DEREK: I'm blaming Dalton for what he contributed to my divorce: My wife was suffering from depression and anxiety (which has been diagnosed by a licensed therapist. Dalton did not identify that. Instead, he assigned all of the blame for my marital problems onto me. If anyone has assigned blame, it is Dalton. After he did that over and over, my wife believed him and left. It played to her anxiety.

Perhaps it's you that's delusional. After all, you're making claims that 'everything I'm saying is false', but you can't bring up one example.

Your post tries to reveal some hidden truth - but you never once owned up to any of your issues or what you might have done in your marriage but also in your counseling session.

DEREK: The truth cannot be hidden. Dalton and other mystics use colloquialisms like this. God does not hide truth. Check your Bible.

Tell me what it is that I've done in my marriage. You do not know me, so it's quite "delusional" for you to presume anything.

If your wife left you with your kid, it most likely has nothing to do with a counselor. And it seems you have tried to go to their church with this information and your thoughts were rejected there, so you took to going online.

DEREK: Actually, I did go to my church, who recommended him to us. Is this not what your Bible tells us to do? It is no surprise that Dalton's collegaues are also Biblically illiterate. I then reported him to the state. I plan to continue to report him to every board which is interested, and I will perhaps file a lawsuit. These are the avenues for conflict resolution available to citizens that feel that someone is acting unethically. Wow. This should all be super obvious. Besides, I know that this site has great SEO. Dalton is a businessman. This is a scam site to report businesses.

You need to take a close hard look in the mirror before you start making accusations of another human.

DEREK: Literally, you're making accusations about me. You sound like a self righteous hypocrite. 

I don't have to prove that Dalton is a scammer. His failing business is proof itself.

Have a good day. 

I have known Joseph personally for many years, and all of what you are saying is false. You can see it in your post that you have a lot problems - the first major blaring one being that you're blaming another human for your issues (first sign of delusion) - its seeping through all of your words. Your post tries to reveal some hidden truth - but you never once owned up to any of your issues or what you might have done in your marriage but also in your counseling session. If your wife left you with your kid, it most likely has nothing to do with a counselor. And it seems you have tried to go to their church with this information and your thoughts were rejected there, so you took to going online. You need to take a close hard look in the mirror before you start making accusations of another human.

 If you're tired of going in mental circles with trying to get breakthrough personally or in your marriage, I strongly suggest you try meeting with Joseph Dalton. He's kind and genuine, a good listener, profoundly sensitive to the subtlest of feelings and things going on that may not even be brought up-he's got a real gift. Joseph has consistently been someone who speaks the truth in a loving way, when everyone else seems content to beat around the psychoanalysis bush. If you're ready to do the hard work of getting real with your heart and moving forward, and ready to own your own part in things instead of passing the blame or finding bandaids to buy time without really healing, then it's amazing what a week of sessions at Navah can do. I've known very few people-counselors and therapists included-who actually seem genuinely compassionate and personally connected when I've talked with them about some very traumatic and difficult things that I've experienced. But Dalton does an incredible job of being connected and real, without crossing any emotional boundaries. He's a rare gift in the "counseling" world, and a refreshingly different and effective approach to the typical mode of counseling. I've known SO MANY (not just one or two!) people (young/old/single/married) who have had the same experience and would echo my thoughts. I've seen friends' lives do a 180 for the better and marriages too. We give a big fat two thumbs up to Navah LLC/Joseph Dalton--definitely an investment well worth it!