Complaint Review: Michele And Shawangunk - Griswold, Socksville Connecticut

I am not sure if this post will be allowed - but I want to thank you for bailing me out of the Shaw-Shank Redemption issue. I appreciate being seperated! I can't thank you enough.

I have some more lists for you only, this is a list of the "fake" names used in the Spam. Maybe with these names, we'll see additional names, locations, etc. We all know what kind of Pam mail is sent so, I'll just post the names on the emails: Karalle Simpson, Annalise Swinsco (and we know how the email account reads), Dee Wells, Freddy L. Allen, Frances Johnston, adspice1, Neile P Cambell, Jessica Carter and Clovis Stenson. I'm sure there are many more, but these are the ones I've taken from the Spams the last two days. But Tom, I am the one whose Circuit City post your refering to, unfortunately, what I posted was true. Anyone that has ever read any of my posts and rebuttals knows I'm on the up and up. I would love to tell you about the emial the DM of Circuit City sent me, acknowledging he was aware of many conplaints to the same exact reference. And, after I was sent a gift card, because he said, "I checked our computers and can see that you are regualar customers of Circuit City and we would hate to loose your business." Anyway, if you thought what happened on my post was unbelievable, you should see what happened when I went in therte one last time. But, it's ok for you to have your opinions, I know I don't always agree with the poster, especially Ms. Annoyed, Ms. Annonmous, etc. There are more names, etc. so, when I find some more, I'll rebuttal again. Tell then, everyone else: Good Luck!

I have some more lists for you only, this is a list of the "fake" names used in the Spam. Maybe with these names, we'll see additional names, locations, etc. We all know what kind of Pam mail is sent so, I'll just post the names on the emails: Karalle Simpson, Annalise Swinsco (and we know how the email account reads), Dee Wells, Freddy L. Allen, Frances Johnston, adspice1, Neile P Cambell, Jessica Carter and Clovis Stenson. I'm sure there are many more, but these are the ones I've taken from the Spams the last two days. But Tom, I am the one whose Circuit City post your refering to, unfortunately, what I posted was true. Anyone that has ever read any of my posts and rebuttals knows I'm on the up and up. I would love to tell you about the emial the DM of Circuit City sent me, acknowledging he was aware of many conplaints to the same exact reference. And, after I was sent a gift card, because he said, "I checked our computers and can see that you are regualar customers of Circuit City and we would hate to loose your business." Anyway, if you thought what happened on my post was unbelievable, you should see what happened when I went in therte one last time. But, it's ok for you to have your opinions, I know I don't always agree with the poster, especially Ms. Annoyed, Ms. Annonmous, etc. There are more names, etc. so, when I find some more, I'll rebuttal again. Tell then, everyone else: Good Luck!

I have some more lists for you only, this is a list of the "fake" names used in the Spam. Maybe with these names, we'll see additional names, locations, etc. We all know what kind of Pam mail is sent so, I'll just post the names on the emails: Karalle Simpson, Annalise Swinsco (and we know how the email account reads), Dee Wells, Freddy L. Allen, Frances Johnston, adspice1, Neile P Cambell, Jessica Carter and Clovis Stenson. I'm sure there are many more, but these are the ones I've taken from the Spams the last two days. But Tom, I am the one whose Circuit City post your refering to, unfortunately, what I posted was true. Anyone that has ever read any of my posts and rebuttals knows I'm on the up and up. I would love to tell you about the emial the DM of Circuit City sent me, acknowledging he was aware of many conplaints to the same exact reference. And, after I was sent a gift card, because he said, "I checked our computers and can see that you are regualar customers of Circuit City and we would hate to loose your business." Anyway, if you thought what happened on my post was unbelievable, you should see what happened when I went in therte one last time. But, it's ok for you to have your opinions, I know I don't always agree with the poster, especially Ms. Annoyed, Ms. Annonmous, etc. There are more names, etc. so, when I find some more, I'll rebuttal again. Tell then, everyone else: Good Luck!

I might be wrong, Tom, but I feel that these other 2 "alias" might be Shaw's also .... Skeeter - Pigeon Trap, West Virginia (7/02) http://www.ripoffreport.com/view.asp?id=62072 and possibly Shanklee Si - Orlando, Florida (7/24) http://www.ripoffreport.com/view.asp?id=64560 I am not sure about Sahnklee, but I am almost positive that Skeeter may be! Just thought i would add my 2 cents! :o) PS - how is it up there in Vernon? Beautiful town!

I am trying to get us all moved over to a post that does not mention anyone else's name in the header. Poor Michele does not deserve to be on the front of this board every day while we confer on a matter not concerning her at all! I then proceeded to have a senior moment and posted the link to this report....DUH! Yes, I do feel stupid! Sorry! Try this one...only Shaw and one of his aliases are mentioned there in the header: http://www.ripoffreport.com/view.asp?id=62433 We all need to get on one page with this issue and leave Michele alone. I hope the ED gets this up early so we'll get straightened out.

The most obvious posts from Shawangunk are listed below. I've organized them into sections of NAME, TOWN/STATE, DATE, and TOPIC. We all know the ED has said that Pegleg and Shawangunk are the same, and now Shawangunk has ADMITTED that he and Cozylee are the same people. The aliases unfold a pattern, but I will only stick to the facts, although other aliases are suspect. Shall we begin? -Pegleg - Toolaville, Idaho. (7/10, Circuit City.) -Pegleg - Socksville, Nebraska. (7/5, Circuit City.) -Gretchelle - Bunyon, Maanitoba. (7/3, Circuit City.) -Wettsy - Bunyon, Oregon. (7/1, Swawandunk Post.) -Pegleg - Toolaville, Idaho. (6/29, Rusty Scupper.) -Gretchelle - Toolaville, Idaho. (6/24, Wedding Cake issue.) - Gretchelle - Toolaville, Nova Scotia. (6/9, Joanne's.) -Cozylee - Socksville, Nebraska (6/2, Best Buy.) -Shawangunk - Socksville, Florida. (5/8, ABC Warehouse.) -Shawonga - Socksville, Kentucky. (5/6, Hair Plus.) -Cozylee - Edinburgh, Europe, UK (4/16, Ramada Inn.) -Shawonga - New York, New York. (4/15, Ramada Inn.) -Shawonga - Orlando, Florida. (4/15, Ramada Inn.) Now, to his credit, he did make two rebuttals about Circuit City back around 4/15 that I agreed with. He does know a thing or two about how Circuit City rips you off. That information was posted around 4/15 and anyone can find it. Since then he just came here to play. The game is over. If you really wanted to track him down, I'd start in New York, then maybe Florids. I believe Nabraska is a smokescreen, but I'm sure if need be, proper authorities could find him by ISP. As far as the spam/hacking issue, that seems like a long shot. My spam is still the same. I don't think he's bright enough to carry out such a thing. So he's been quiet for now. Will he be back? Probably, and under a new name. If he starts up again it shouldn't be too hard to ferret him out.

The most obvious posts from Shawangunk are listed below. I've organized them into sections of NAME, TOWN/STATE, DATE, and TOPIC. We all know the ED has said that Pegleg and Shawangunk are the same, and now Shawangunk has ADMITTED that he and Cozylee are the same people. The aliases unfold a pattern, but I will only stick to the facts, although other aliases are suspect. Shall we begin? -Pegleg - Toolaville, Idaho. (7/10, Circuit City.) -Pegleg - Socksville, Nebraska. (7/5, Circuit City.) -Gretchelle - Bunyon, Maanitoba. (7/3, Circuit City.) -Wettsy - Bunyon, Oregon. (7/1, Swawandunk Post.) -Pegleg - Toolaville, Idaho. (6/29, Rusty Scupper.) -Gretchelle - Toolaville, Idaho. (6/24, Wedding Cake issue.) - Gretchelle - Toolaville, Nova Scotia. (6/9, Joanne's.) -Cozylee - Socksville, Nebraska (6/2, Best Buy.) -Shawangunk - Socksville, Florida. (5/8, ABC Warehouse.) -Shawonga - Socksville, Kentucky. (5/6, Hair Plus.) -Cozylee - Edinburgh, Europe, UK (4/16, Ramada Inn.) -Shawonga - New York, New York. (4/15, Ramada Inn.) -Shawonga - Orlando, Florida. (4/15, Ramada Inn.) Now, to his credit, he did make two rebuttals about Circuit City back around 4/15 that I agreed with. He does know a thing or two about how Circuit City rips you off. That information was posted around 4/15 and anyone can find it. Since then he just came here to play. The game is over. If you really wanted to track him down, I'd start in New York, then maybe Florids. I believe Nabraska is a smokescreen, but I'm sure if need be, proper authorities could find him by ISP. As far as the spam/hacking issue, that seems like a long shot. My spam is still the same. I don't think he's bright enough to carry out such a thing. So he's been quiet for now. Will he be back? Probably, and under a new name. If he starts up again it shouldn't be too hard to ferret him out.

The most obvious posts from Shawangunk are listed below. I've organized them into sections of NAME, TOWN/STATE, DATE, and TOPIC. We all know the ED has said that Pegleg and Shawangunk are the same, and now Shawangunk has ADMITTED that he and Cozylee are the same people. The aliases unfold a pattern, but I will only stick to the facts, although other aliases are suspect. Shall we begin? -Pegleg - Toolaville, Idaho. (7/10, Circuit City.) -Pegleg - Socksville, Nebraska. (7/5, Circuit City.) -Gretchelle - Bunyon, Maanitoba. (7/3, Circuit City.) -Wettsy - Bunyon, Oregon. (7/1, Swawandunk Post.) -Pegleg - Toolaville, Idaho. (6/29, Rusty Scupper.) -Gretchelle - Toolaville, Idaho. (6/24, Wedding Cake issue.) - Gretchelle - Toolaville, Nova Scotia. (6/9, Joanne's.) -Cozylee - Socksville, Nebraska (6/2, Best Buy.) -Shawangunk - Socksville, Florida. (5/8, ABC Warehouse.) -Shawonga - Socksville, Kentucky. (5/6, Hair Plus.) -Cozylee - Edinburgh, Europe, UK (4/16, Ramada Inn.) -Shawonga - New York, New York. (4/15, Ramada Inn.) -Shawonga - Orlando, Florida. (4/15, Ramada Inn.) Now, to his credit, he did make two rebuttals about Circuit City back around 4/15 that I agreed with. He does know a thing or two about how Circuit City rips you off. That information was posted around 4/15 and anyone can find it. Since then he just came here to play. The game is over. If you really wanted to track him down, I'd start in New York, then maybe Florids. I believe Nabraska is a smokescreen, but I'm sure if need be, proper authorities could find him by ISP. As far as the spam/hacking issue, that seems like a long shot. My spam is still the same. I don't think he's bright enough to carry out such a thing. So he's been quiet for now. Will he be back? Probably, and under a new name. If he starts up again it shouldn't be too hard to ferret him out.

The most obvious posts from Shawangunk are listed below. I've organized them into sections of NAME, TOWN/STATE, DATE, and TOPIC. We all know the ED has said that Pegleg and Shawangunk are the same, and now Shawangunk has ADMITTED that he and Cozylee are the same people. The aliases unfold a pattern, but I will only stick to the facts, although other aliases are suspect. Shall we begin? -Pegleg - Toolaville, Idaho. (7/10, Circuit City.) -Pegleg - Socksville, Nebraska. (7/5, Circuit City.) -Gretchelle - Bunyon, Maanitoba. (7/3, Circuit City.) -Wettsy - Bunyon, Oregon. (7/1, Swawandunk Post.) -Pegleg - Toolaville, Idaho. (6/29, Rusty Scupper.) -Gretchelle - Toolaville, Idaho. (6/24, Wedding Cake issue.) - Gretchelle - Toolaville, Nova Scotia. (6/9, Joanne's.) -Cozylee - Socksville, Nebraska (6/2, Best Buy.) -Shawangunk - Socksville, Florida. (5/8, ABC Warehouse.) -Shawonga - Socksville, Kentucky. (5/6, Hair Plus.) -Cozylee - Edinburgh, Europe, UK (4/16, Ramada Inn.) -Shawonga - New York, New York. (4/15, Ramada Inn.) -Shawonga - Orlando, Florida. (4/15, Ramada Inn.) Now, to his credit, he did make two rebuttals about Circuit City back around 4/15 that I agreed with. He does know a thing or two about how Circuit City rips you off. That information was posted around 4/15 and anyone can find it. Since then he just came here to play. The game is over. If you really wanted to track him down, I'd start in New York, then maybe Florids. I believe Nabraska is a smokescreen, but I'm sure if need be, proper authorities could find him by ISP. As far as the spam/hacking issue, that seems like a long shot. My spam is still the same. I don't think he's bright enough to carry out such a thing. So he's been quiet for now. Will he be back? Probably, and under a new name. If he starts up again it shouldn't be too hard to ferret him out.

I've just checked my Rebuttal files, and lately I too have been getting duplicate Rebuttals. Not as far back, but they are on record. I didn't want to say anything, because I know this is a high speed web site, and the Staff is busy. The only one I reported to the Webmaster was someone else's rebuttal that got sent to me. I just thought that person should have their own, to keep track of their own research. On one of the duplicate Rebuttals, there were to different rebuttals attatched to one Report. It's not the site. I still think it is the work of a hacker. A certain you-know-who might have accomplices. I've been reveiwing some html mark up information, and have found suspect information, connected to possible sabatoge either to me or the site. An Expert Witness would have to validate my findings. My computer runs perfect. All my other emails, and my husbands emails are fine. The only one malfunctioning is through the one submitted here. This is why I beleive like Robin, there's something else going on. Tom, you're not going to believe this, but I think someone coming from the "Tupper Lake" :) section might be in on it, or just have their own hack project. I want to make a donation to the site. We need to keep this site open, and the Editor can't just do everything himself. Like I said, he's a good man. My concern is with site security and privacy. If I submit my credit card number, I don't know what might happen, under the circumstances. I'll probably just send mine snail mail. Wish I had done it sooner. Until this gets straightened out, I'm just not secure about sharing my credit card information. It's not going to stop me from donating, because I want the Staff to be able to buy cameras, equipment, and keep those firewalls up and running. The Staff has to know, I will do anything and share any information, helpful to them to keep this site up and running. They are hard working people. I don't know how they keep up with all of this, but I pray they continue. God bless them. I've held on to a Report from 5-15-2003. The person who filed the report made an indirect threat, that I thought was deviant and intimidating. I held on to the Report, in case anything might happen. This person came in from the Don Lapre Reports. I've done some research to help individuals over there too. Last, we shouldn't be surprised if the Better Business Bureau all pitched in, now come on people. Think about it. They're all businessmen, who may loose potential profit from some of the information printed here. Now I use some of their information from BBB Online, if I can, but that doesn't mean I trust them. The only way you can get them to post a truthful, potentially negative report is when the corporation is just miserably, really, really baaaaaaad. Otherwise, you can find a report on the Devil, and it would look good. It's not a primary source of informtion for me. Now having said all that, let's see if my computer doesn't crash, with a virus, and I never have email again. :) No, seriously I am still investigating this whole mess.

If you have come here to post about Shawangunk, please go to: http://www.ripoffreport.com/view.asp?id=64252 In deference to Michele, I thought it might be better to move this discussion. She does not deserve to be involved with all this. Note to Jacqueline: I moved the text of your rebuttal to the other post. I hope you do not mind. Thanks.

Ever since this freak came to the site, my email is not functioning properly. Just about ALL 99% of my emails keep bouncing back to me. I have other emails. IT'S THE EMAIL I USE FOR THIS SITE. The most consistent message I get is: "Delivery Status Notification Failure". I agree there's no way the EDitor is a part of any of this spam or whatever. He's a good man. Really I think he is to an extent put on the spot, and victim to the situation as well. Besides he's invested too much hard work into this site. There is something special going on here, that I haven't found at other consumer sites. The spam doesn't seem that different, but there was a weirdo last month, that emailed me. This person acted like they had spoken to me before, and I had never met this person. The email was just weird, sorry can't give more detail. I blocked it, and wouldn't respond. I'm still looking into this further. Robin, I think you're onto something. This is a work in progress.

Okay, we have the ball rolling here, so let's take it all the way to the bottom of the hill. I am tickled to pieces that I am not the only one noticing these oddities. Tom and Jacqueline, especially.lets ride this thing to the end. Another really long post, but its a long way down this hill! But, theres much MORE! I have mentioned in other posts the difficulty that this site is having lately with technical issues. Seemed like everything was going along great and along comes Shaw. All of a sudden, RipOffReport.com was down, scrambled, unavailable, and generally in a mess. It was happening a lot! I do not believe the Ed of this site suddenly forgot how things worked; that is absurd. Study, study, think. It was almost like the site was under attack. Remember back to the first time that all the rebuttals got overwritten by the same rebuttal over and over? Not too long after that, I began to feel like I was under assault myself! One of my inboxes was flooded with some of the nastiest spam I have ever received. Lots of this ugly, nasty spam all at once, all of a sudden. One question for all of you; did this happen to any of you as well? I say one of my inboxes, I have more than one email address. Nothing sinister, I have an old address that things get forwarded from on occasion, and another on another computer that I use in another location. I use the same address for posting on ROR no matter which computer I am using. Stay with me here Almost all the spam was going to the address I use to report here! ALL of the really disgusting, sick stuff was coming to that address. Then Shaw, out of the blue, accuses me of using a fake identity or hiding my identity. That was puzzling for a little bit. Waldron is certainly a real town and my name is Robin; nothing odd there.nothing as odd as Shawagunk. Why would Shaw even think I was hiding my real identity? Analyze and think some more. What could I be doing that would make him think such a thing? Ive always posted under same name, same town, all over. Same email address. I use a handy little program called MailWasher that snags my email before it gets to my OE inbox. There I can safely preview it without any embedded nasties reaching my mail program and my OS files. There are some options there; I can delete from directly from MailWasher, process the mail into my inbox, or I can bounce the email. Which I routinely do with all spam. When I bounce mail, it sends it back to the sender with my email address marked as invalid. Thus making the sender think that my mail address is no good when, in fact, it is both valid and functional. This is undoubtedly what led Shaw to think that I was hiding my identity.all his spam crap got returned! The moron thought I was posting with a fake email address. Ha! Gotcha! Say the technical difficulties experienced by this site were caused by a hack attack. And during this hack, someone harvested all the email addresses posters were using for nefarious purposes. Spam mail is certainly an annoyance to those getting it. Especially filthy trash like I was getting! For what reason would someone do this? One might be to make folks think that the ED of this site was selling or giving out posters addresses. I will never believe that, as I have been around this site longer than Shaw, and this never happened until last spring when HE showed up. The ED has to have integrity or he would have been out of business long ago with this site, end of story. Would not be logical if reason is applied. Now we have a barrage of really nasty email and a really nasty poster with lots of AKAs (most of them so silly that one would have to be really out of it NOT to notice them) on the site who seems to have no goal except to inflame and perhaps drive/scare posters away. I immediately decided that Rip-Off Report.com was under attack, and myself and other posters by default. I take both issues personally and seriously. Harassment, both on and off the site. Add to that the issue of whether the spam carried a payload of viruses or worms that posters would send back to the site every time we posted; a self-perpetuating attack that could be triggered by anyone, unwittingly, simply by posting a complaint. I like this site. It is, in my humble opinion, a useful and worthy endeavor. I take umbrage at anyone trying to ruin a good thing as Shaw is doing. The site being what it is, it is a target for harassment, hassles, lawsuits, and general mischief by dishonest scam companies. There are any number of dishonest scam companies reported here, so the list is wide and long. "Why" and "for whom" are the big questions that now need to be addressed. The WHY will tell us who Shaw is and who he is doing this for. That will be the end of this elaborate puzzle, so we can turn our attention to other matters. Right now, THIS matters, so it must be resolved. Sneak attacks are as low as it gets! Shaw SEEMS to be everywhere, spreading garbage on every conceivable subject. But, he is not EVERYWHERE at all. The key lies in the posts that this person never/seldom seems to touch. There we will find the clueshelp me out here, guys! I have a few companies on my list already, but a little help would go a long way..lets expose this person and blow the lid off him! NOTE FOR SHAWANJERK: I know that you are reading this, so a little info for you. Since I have blown my cover by telling you about what I was doing with the sick crap you were sending, I feel obliged to tell you this. I have spent a couple of days doing the following: Beefing up and enhancing firewalls. EVERY attempted intrusion into my system is now being reported. Have added a neutralizing program to MailWasher, just in case you try to send me a little something extra. Pest Patrol is on duty. In thorough mode. Virus programs are updated daily w/ frequent online scans being done. The really nasty emails I was getting were bounced, but not UNTIL AFTER I pulled and copied the headers. They will soon be on their way to someone who can help out. I do not like you and know the feeling is mutual. You are an anarchist with the goal of destroying decency in society. You have sold yourself to someone, somewhere for personal gain. You are a sorry human being and nothing would give me more pleasure than seeing you hauled off in chains. There is no place in this country or the world for hacker/spammers; you are dirt! I have spent some money to keep you out. I dont know what the ED of this site is doing concerning you, other than attempting to shield the readers from the worst of your garbage. (Thanks, but I dont see how it could get much worse than some that is posted! You must have a file full of real stinkers!) I am going to send the ED a few bucks TODAY to be used to find and eliminate you from polite society. You are a danger to all of us, with your hate and hidden agenda! I am willing to expend whatever it takes to remove you from our midst!

As a goof, I did a search here for WAAHHHH! It seems our good buddy Shawangunk, who now ADMITS is also Cozylee, lives in a different country, too! In a post someone made about the Ramada Inn, yours truly starts his rebuttal with "WAAHH, CRY ME A RIVER!" on 4/16 - unloads his opinion and claims to be an employee in the hotel industry, and signs off as: COZYLEE - Edinburgh, Europe, United Kingdom. Now that's funny, because THE DAY BEFORE, (4/15) Shawangunk (then Shawonga) posted a rebuttal about a Circuit City issue claiming he worked for Circuit City in Orlando....Then he lived in New York, and now the infamous non-existent town Socksville. And remember not too long ago when accused of being Cozylee from Socksville, his explaination was, Hey two people can live in the same town". Sure, a town that doesn't exist. And finally admits now it is him. We all know Cozylee posted from many places, and we also know he has used Cozylee as a TOWN. He has no defense, and he brought this completely upon himself. And as I said before, he has the BALLS to say he doesn't hide his identity. BUSTED!!!!! (heh-heh)

first as for Shawangunk, Like most of you, I DO NOT care to even mention that name. And the other rebuttalist was exactly right, this person does not put ANYTHING nice about the posters. Instead it's more of a game with this person. Post all you want about him. And why I'm assumming this person is a male, well see for yourself. On this site there is a post about Hetch's department store in my area Report #24016. (By the way a "Jasper" rebuttal is also found here.) I don't particualrly like someone that tell someone to stop hidding their identy, when they themselves do. Like on other posts, this person placed something nastyand has signed with Shawonga of Portland, CA. So, yes the woman posting is hidding, but so are you. Shawangunk, whatever, is the person that goes around pissing others off, and from my personal experience, he's doing one hell of a job. As for Michele, I will side with her. I have never read anything that was rude or upsetting poster or rebuttaled to by her. So, lay off. Now as far as Rach goes. Give me a break. You posted a big B.S. story on Chick-Fil-A, two identical reports on Joanne at Mr. B's Salon and now this one. I wonder how many more there are??? I could really careless what you write about people and companies, AS LONG AS THEIR TRUE. I also don't like the fact that you've used fake names and places of living to place a defensible rebuttal to their own posts. And you're not fooling anyone, don't lie you certainly have. At least have the common since to make it sound like someone else. As most, I think this Rach, Annoyed-female or Anonomous, whatever floats your boat, is someone that just likes to start a lot of B.S. She must hate everyone and the world to place the phrases she continues to place. Your defence on most of your rebuttal's is, "This is a forum for the abused, etc. etc. etc..." You're right, but like you and everyone else on the web, people like Shawangunk have the right to rebuttal to anything posted. That's why there is a place to make your voice heard, rather it be for the poster or against them. But, when someone like you comes along, you piss the hole site off. Anyone that has read you other report's know's your so full of yourself. Instead of you chilling out, you'd rather insult anyone and everyone that doesn't share your feelings. You alway go on with calling people names and insulting them the best you know how. The forum is NOT for that. So, if you want to post a report on anyone, you should have started with yourself. What you have done lowers yourself and opinions even more. So maybe you should calm down, have a drink, whatever, and calmly explain yourside instead of making uncalled for insults.

The original author of this post has some valid concerns, in regard to people searching for assitstance who end up being attacked. As far as Michelle is concerned, I am not familiar with her work, but she sounds decent, in this post. She is in no way like Shawinski. The two shouldn't even be compared. As far as Robin is concerned, the volunteer work she has done is resourceful and beneficial to those in need. Just reveiw the Reports related to Fairbanks. This is a person making a difference. Being productive and having a posative input is far from being dull. I will acknowledge that Shawangunk has calmed down compared to the bold cap insanity, in prior reports, but this individual never really had anything to offer previously or now. Aside from needless insults, this person will probably never have anything to offer. He/she/it will probably insult me. There won't be any productive input in the process, except whining about facism, and calling me a "Yenta". I know he'll probably attack me like the rest. This is predictable behaviour, and I agree with Robin, that he is like a stalker/hacker. There will come a time when the Editor will have to rethink the priorities, purpose and global input of this site. When the Editor decides "Consumer Advocacy" is a priority, there will be no place for Shawonga. When you introduce yourself as a Consumer Advocate, you have to stand your ground, and defend whatever or whoever you advocate. This is not currently the situation. I would like to thank Robin, Tom and the original author of this post for bringing this issue to our attention, and hopefully the Editor's attention. The Editor also needs to clarify the web site policy. What gives me or anyone else the right to prequalify consumer's Reports? What are we Report and Rebuttal police? If the Report is posted, doesn't that mean it has been determined acceptable, by the Editor? If the decision is made, what right do we have to shoot people down, just because we do not think their Report is valid? The Editor has to state: "No Prequalification or Editing of other consumers Reports Allowed". He also needs to clarify the definition of a Voluneer, Consumer Advocate, and Reporter of this site. Does Volunteering mean you stalk people? If this is not the definition, then Policy has to be implemented, as well as enforced. The problem is not with random stalkers, the problem is with who has control over this web site. Again, I do not have the right to tell people they are not allowed to receive a Rebuttal or put them down, just because I think they are not entitled. This has to be determined by the Editor. There should be a clear difference between what defines a "Rebuttal" and "Destructive Attacks". This does not mean hindering the opinion of someone else, but there is a difference between opinions, and out-right verbal abuse, humiliation and vulgar insults. Rach, hang in there, and don't let Shawinki get to you. ;)

Shaw, Can I just call you "Shaw"? The whole name is so unwieldy..and is also the name of a notorious prison in New York state. You said you just moved from New York, hmmm...ever gone on a tour of Shawangunk Maximum Security Correctional Facility? You are amazing! All these moves and you rarely miss a night on the ROR in one or another of your incarnations! I know when I move it takes me a few days to get settled. You must travel very, very light. And through all the turmoil, you have managed to consistently honor us with your presence. Why? You are not exactly the most productive person on this site. Why are you so compelled to come here day in, day out? Do you feel a need to get new email addresses all the time? You are openly admitting to behavior very common with hackers! Always moving when in danger of being caught...Come to think of it, this site has experienced more trouble since you showed up than I had ever seen before your sudden appearance in early spring. Of course, there is the issue of how you could be earning money while moving so often. Hmmm...I can think of a couple of ways that you could be earning. Those details are still a bit unclear, but I am closing in on them as well. You see, I am not only able to create mental lists, I also have to connect the facts on my list into a "whole" that makes sense. Familiarize, analyze, categorize, work the puzzle until it is solved. It's just the way I'm made; I won't quit until the solution is at hand. Something about you has bothered me for awhile now and it isn't just your "sparkling" personality! All those AKAs caught my attention right away; that was a mistake on your part. The illogic of it is supicious; why even try to juggle so many identities? There was bound to be a mix-up someday and there was, wasn't there? If I were the ED, I would be calling my buddy at the FBI at this point. The picture that keeps forming is that you may be doing a little hanky-panky on this site for your employer. What say you, Shaw? Is it maybe time to leave your "cozy" nest in "Socksville" and start rolling along once again? *Sorry, Cher; just couldn't resist!

Shawangunk, one of your first posts was from Orlando, Fla. (4-15-03) You claimed at that time you worked for Circuit City (as Shawonga) dealing with customers returning stuff. Then you weighed in as Pegleg to endorse your own post, from Toolaville, Idaho. The ED has already said Pegleg and you are coming from the same place, regardless of the town. You've even posted your responses at one time as living in Cozylee. Very transparent. Even posts from different countries, with bogus names for the town. Then you post your opinions from a town that doesn't exist in Nebraska, and you have the balls to say you don't hide your identity. Your posts are placed all around the clock. (4AM, 10AM, 2PM, etc... Oh that's right, Circuit City has you on call) Now you say you moved. Nice come-back, Lori gets credit for giving you that idea swifty. At least she was telling the truth. How does it feel to be on the defensive? Wahhhh! CRY ME A RIVER, you pant load.

Man, now I understand something about his terrible rebutals. With a name like that he must have gotten beaten on a regular basis in school. Sounds like he has a Napolean complex. But I also noticed as one of his alias names living in Cozylee in some state. Pretty funny. Gee, almost had me fooled. BTW, for the record I have no problem with Michele. I saw that one of her latest rebutals seemed quite helpful. Shawangunk, or whatever his name is, well, I just have no use for him. And now he'll probably start flaming me. Hey, how's those lawsuits coming along, tough guy? WAAAH, CRY ME A RIVER!

Man, now I understand something about his terrible rebutals. With a name like that he must have gotten beaten on a regular basis in school. Sounds like he has a Napolean complex. But I also noticed as one of his alias names living in Cozylee in some state. Pretty funny. Gee, almost had me fooled. BTW, for the record I have no problem with Michele. I saw that one of her latest rebutals seemed quite helpful. Shawangunk, or whatever his name is, well, I just have no use for him. And now he'll probably start flaming me. Hey, how's those lawsuits coming along, tough guy? WAAAH, CRY ME A RIVER!

Man, now I understand something about his terrible rebutals. With a name like that he must have gotten beaten on a regular basis in school. Sounds like he has a Napolean complex. But I also noticed as one of his alias names living in Cozylee in some state. Pretty funny. Gee, almost had me fooled. BTW, for the record I have no problem with Michele. I saw that one of her latest rebutals seemed quite helpful. Shawangunk, or whatever his name is, well, I just have no use for him. And now he'll probably start flaming me. Hey, how's those lawsuits coming along, tough guy? WAAAH, CRY ME A RIVER!

Man, now I understand something about his terrible rebutals. With a name like that he must have gotten beaten on a regular basis in school. Sounds like he has a Napolean complex. But I also noticed as one of his alias names living in Cozylee in some state. Pretty funny. Gee, almost had me fooled. BTW, for the record I have no problem with Michele. I saw that one of her latest rebutals seemed quite helpful. Shawangunk, or whatever his name is, well, I just have no use for him. And now he'll probably start flaming me. Hey, how's those lawsuits coming along, tough guy? WAAAH, CRY ME A RIVER!

I found it! I found my personality! It was in my dresser drawer all the time! Now that I have found it, I do not want to wear it out, so I have decided to only get it out for the week between Christmas and New Year's and on my birthday. Check back then and prepare to be charmed out of your tree. As for my "lists"; I do not sit around writing this stuff down, silly willy. I retain what I read...ever heard of "photographic memory"? I do not have that exactly, but pretty close. I work logic problems for fun and relaxation...this stuff just comes naturally to me. Illogic bothers me, so I tend to give it more attention. When I see formerly separate names from separate states coming together, it catches my attention. I notice inconsistencies and have a burning desire to resolve them. If it bothers you so much, simply revert to the "way we were" and I will not make note of it. I have no beef with you except when you go out of your way to be downright mean to people. Actually, I find you to be clever and articulate most of the time. You seem to be knowledgeable in a broad range of subjects, but sometimes you want to "bash" folks over truly serious subjects. How about helping them instead? Victims have already learned in "the school of hard knocks" and do not need you to make them feel even worse. And if I am boring, how do you explain the fact that you read my posts? And respond to them? You know you like me, c'mon admit it...all of my many, many friends here in Waldron, AR really like me, so you are outnumbered if you don't. And they all call me "Robin" because that's what is on my birth certificate. Do you think that there might have been a clerical error and I was really supposed to be named something else? Odd that my parents never once mentioned it....I'll ask 'em about it sometime. I hope you find your mind (have you checked in your dresser drawers?). And can resolve the conflict concerning the state of your residence. I believe that may be the root of your desire to slam folks. If you can reunite your first name with your middle name in the same geographic location, they will make beautiful music together and you will feel so much better; it will calm your psyche and soothe your soul. I figure you will now try to "burn" me with a really awful, hot, searing, angry, ugly, swearing, tantrum-throwing post...that's okay. I have been "toasted" before...I am a happy person as a rule and don't hold grudges. I'll check back with you next time you have an identity mix-up. (I am still willing to write it all down and mail it to you if you think it would be helpful.) Later, you little sweetie! Get those names together and it will all be alright in the morning! Just wait and see...

I found it! I found my personality! It was in my dresser drawer all the time! Now that I have found it, I do not want to wear it out, so I have decided to only get it out for the week between Christmas and New Year's and on my birthday. Check back then and prepare to be charmed out of your tree. As for my "lists"; I do not sit around writing this stuff down, silly willy. I retain what I read...ever heard of "photographic memory"? I do not have that exactly, but pretty close. I work logic problems for fun and relaxation...this stuff just comes naturally to me. Illogic bothers me, so I tend to give it more attention. When I see formerly separate names from separate states coming together, it catches my attention. I notice inconsistencies and have a burning desire to resolve them. If it bothers you so much, simply revert to the "way we were" and I will not make note of it. I have no beef with you except when you go out of your way to be downright mean to people. Actually, I find you to be clever and articulate most of the time. You seem to be knowledgeable in a broad range of subjects, but sometimes you want to "bash" folks over truly serious subjects. How about helping them instead? Victims have already learned in "the school of hard knocks" and do not need you to make them feel even worse. And if I am boring, how do you explain the fact that you read my posts? And respond to them? You know you like me, c'mon admit it...all of my many, many friends here in Waldron, AR really like me, so you are outnumbered if you don't. And they all call me "Robin" because that's what is on my birth certificate. Do you think that there might have been a clerical error and I was really supposed to be named something else? Odd that my parents never once mentioned it....I'll ask 'em about it sometime. I hope you find your mind (have you checked in your dresser drawers?). And can resolve the conflict concerning the state of your residence. I believe that may be the root of your desire to slam folks. If you can reunite your first name with your middle name in the same geographic location, they will make beautiful music together and you will feel so much better; it will calm your psyche and soothe your soul. I figure you will now try to "burn" me with a really awful, hot, searing, angry, ugly, swearing, tantrum-throwing post...that's okay. I have been "toasted" before...I am a happy person as a rule and don't hold grudges. I'll check back with you next time you have an identity mix-up. (I am still willing to write it all down and mail it to you if you think it would be helpful.) Later, you little sweetie! Get those names together and it will all be alright in the morning! Just wait and see...

I found it! I found my personality! It was in my dresser drawer all the time! Now that I have found it, I do not want to wear it out, so I have decided to only get it out for the week between Christmas and New Year's and on my birthday. Check back then and prepare to be charmed out of your tree. As for my "lists"; I do not sit around writing this stuff down, silly willy. I retain what I read...ever heard of "photographic memory"? I do not have that exactly, but pretty close. I work logic problems for fun and relaxation...this stuff just comes naturally to me. Illogic bothers me, so I tend to give it more attention. When I see formerly separate names from separate states coming together, it catches my attention. I notice inconsistencies and have a burning desire to resolve them. If it bothers you so much, simply revert to the "way we were" and I will not make note of it. I have no beef with you except when you go out of your way to be downright mean to people. Actually, I find you to be clever and articulate most of the time. You seem to be knowledgeable in a broad range of subjects, but sometimes you want to "bash" folks over truly serious subjects. How about helping them instead? Victims have already learned in "the school of hard knocks" and do not need you to make them feel even worse. And if I am boring, how do you explain the fact that you read my posts? And respond to them? You know you like me, c'mon admit it...all of my many, many friends here in Waldron, AR really like me, so you are outnumbered if you don't. And they all call me "Robin" because that's what is on my birth certificate. Do you think that there might have been a clerical error and I was really supposed to be named something else? Odd that my parents never once mentioned it....I'll ask 'em about it sometime. I hope you find your mind (have you checked in your dresser drawers?). And can resolve the conflict concerning the state of your residence. I believe that may be the root of your desire to slam folks. If you can reunite your first name with your middle name in the same geographic location, they will make beautiful music together and you will feel so much better; it will calm your psyche and soothe your soul. I figure you will now try to "burn" me with a really awful, hot, searing, angry, ugly, swearing, tantrum-throwing post...that's okay. I have been "toasted" before...I am a happy person as a rule and don't hold grudges. I'll check back with you next time you have an identity mix-up. (I am still willing to write it all down and mail it to you if you think it would be helpful.) Later, you little sweetie! Get those names together and it will all be alright in the morning! Just wait and see...

Well "Robin," at least we agree on one thing ... your personality is direly lacking. And your keeping "lists" is a bit odd if not characteristic of stalker behaviour. To answer your question -- which really has nothing to do with the topic of discussion, does it? -- I MOVED from New York to Nebraska. People do MOVE you know. Not everyone grows up and remains in the same exact southern Arkansas town their entire life. I liken myself to that of a gypsy, always moving and trying out new places in which to live. If you have been keeping accurate "lists" then you will notice that my earlier posts were in New York, and since then all of my posts have been in Nebraska. This is my final explanation -- if you are not happy with that then go take your list-making self over to another message board. Let's talk about something interesting - or nothing at all!

How come your first name lives in one state and your middle name in another? Is that physically possible? What makes you think I am hiding my identity? I have always posted under the same name from the same town because that is who I am and this is where I live. I at least know that, which seems to be more than you know! As for my lists...well, that is just something I do. I have a tendency to catalog things, line them up and see if I can make sense of them. You are a tough nut to crack for sure...pretty senseless. I may have lost my personality, but you have obviously lost your mind!

Robin, Cozylee is part of my full name. Whether or not I post reports under my first name alone, or first and middle names, should be of no concern to you. At least I am not trying to conceal my identity as you and many others do. Secondly, I find it quite humorous that you actually keep a list of the people who visit this site, and where they are from. To know that you have such an incredibly large amount of free time on your hands, and choose to spend your time creating such "lists," indicates to me what a boring, closed-minded, and friendless creature you are, indeed. Perhaps you could create a different "list" in your spare time - how about a list of all the possible places you could have lost your personality. That could take a while, as it seems you have not had one for a very long time.

Oops, Shawangunk...another slip-up?? Forgot who you are today? You should keep a list: "Ichabod" lives in Hickory Patch, VA "Jasper" lives in Corn Junction, South Carolina "Cozylee" lives in New York "Shawangunk" lives in Socksville, Nebraska etc. etc. etc. Post your email and I'll be happy to send you my list so that you do not have to think so hard about who lives where! With all the "constructive" commentary you have to offer, I hate to see you wasting time on trying to remember who you are and where you live. Toodle-loo, dearie...til next time!

The original poster must really, truly have suffered psychological damage at the hands of "Joanne at Mr. B's Salon." The trauma of receiving a shaggy-dog haircut and doing nothing to stop the situation is still fresh in her mind, and not only is she refusing to drop the topic and move on, but she is taking it out on others. She has discussed this issue at such great length over such a long period of time, her hair surely must have grown back by now. But will she drop it? Nooo... she has way to much fun putting others down, calling names, and a myriad of other very mature activities that occupy her time during her unemployed days in the trailer park. Michelle - ignore this woman's comments. Understand that she is very sick and cannot understand TRUTH unless it is in her favor 100% of the time. "Rach" from Orlando - I suggest you get some professional help to deal with your traumatic experience, and learn to deal with your frustrations in a more acceptable fashion.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/view.asp?id=52213 Ah! Rach you are MS Anonymous! Now that I know who you are I can better defend myself from your cruel accusations. This link: http://www.ripoffreport.com/view.asp?id=52213 is the thread that this person is upset about. Mind you, I am not the only one that has stated that the individual, calling herself Rach at the moment, has questioned her on her post or stated their opinion. If you do not agree with her 100%, she resorts to petty name calling and insults. RACH or ANNONYMOUS: What was the VERY first line of my post? Did you miss it? It is: Let me say upfront, I do not agree with anyone being abusive to anyone whether it be physical, emotional, or verbal. I am not condoning abusive treatment of anyone in any manner Where is that do I support abusers? Where in that do I say that all the abusers are right and all victims are wrong? I think I hurt your feelings or upset you in my questions and non-belief that you r story was 100% true but that was my opinion. Instead of explaining the situation to make myself and the others that questioned you understand the situation (or ignoring us due to the fact that you really dont need to explain yourself to us) you instead resort to the EXACT MANNER in which you accuse me of? Huh?

What? When have I ever been abusive to anyone? I have never! I state my opinion and unfortunately some people on this board have NOT been ripped off. And I have NEVER called them names! Others have and I have posted numerous times on where to get help, etc. Before you start spewing accusations you should get your stories straight. As for coupling me with Shaquakaw or whatever her name is - that is horribly uncalled for! She calls people names and uses abusive language - something I have never and will never do. What is your problem anyway? Because there are actual people out there that don't get ripped off - they just want to complain because something didn't go there way I cant call them on it? Please! I guess you didn't see my post about WalMart? I was with the poster! How about all the help and info I have given to the people who have been lied to, ripped off and mislead by Ramada Plaza Resorts? Oh, I guess that doesn't count either! I post the way I see it and I do it with respect for the poster! Never has anyone complained about my constructive criticism so what is your issue? There are people on here that got ripped off, abused, mistreated, and legitimately have a complaint. Are you going to sit there and say that some are not actual rip-offs? Some people are just not accepting the contracts they signed or the law itself? I am a bit confused by the fact that you are "irritated" by me putting people down and harassing them (which is COMPLETELY untrue) - but you sat and in one paragraph called me about 1/2 a dozen names and are trying to cause a rally against me. That makes sense.