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  • Report:  #144968

Complaint Review: John Parker - Piraeus Internet

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- Telluride, Colorado,
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John Parker
30 Pilonos Street Piraeus, 18501 Internet, Greece
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In Nov purchased a Harley Davidson for $6000.00 and never recieved the bike ebay holds no responsibility for this transaction and says that I was taken to a fraudulant ebay site thinking that it was ebay. I was told to send the money western union and felt uncomfortable with this type of transaction, ebay financial emailed me back to tell me that they highly recommended the seller and this is the way transactions out of country go. Said that I would be contacted once the money was recieved and the bike was shipped. WELL NEVER heard from anybody and the money was picked up the next morning by alais John Parker. I investigated this only to see that this alais had the same bike/bikes for sale under up to five different email addresses and I let ebay know They still let this alais person advertise on ebaymotors knowing that he will take you to a fraudulant website that looks exactly like ebay!!!!They hold no liability and all they can say is sorry for your loss. I feel that ebay should be responsible for my full refund and all of the other people who have been victimized whether it be motorcycles or whatever pictures he/she may be selling now. They know this is FRAUD and continue to let this happen!!!! I will let everybody I know EBAY HOSTS FRAUD AND THIEVES!!!!! AND THEY KNOW IT!!!!! JUST A SORRY DOSEN'T CUT IT EBAY!!!!

Lena

Telluride, Colorado
U.S.A.


8 Updates & Rebuttals

Tamara

Virginia Beach,
Virginia,
U.S.A.
Let's point the finger at who's really responsible...

#2Consumer Comment

Sat, July 30, 2005

This isn't like you going to a drive-thru for hot coffee, then after spilling it, want to blame the place for it being hot, it's about it being such a gathering for scam artists, that it is almost inevitable they will not get caught nor prosecuted for their illegal intent.Yes,I agree that the public needs to take heed to the warnings, but if fraud is illegal,call it misrepresentation or whatever you like,it should be up to the hosting site to pursue these criminals, no matter how many, to get their business or consumers their money etc.Ok you say, well there's too many for the website to track down, well than, maybe that means you should revise some of your do's and don'ts of your website. For example; Let's post warnings of prosecuting the criminal for their intent to commit fraud. Let's only show the amount we bid to the "real" seller.To everyone else it can just say bid higher than ..or do not show the person's screen name, Let's have the member contact ebay at a real ebay "phone number" that is posted on their website to actually accept the second chance offers.I know that Ebay is making enough money somehow, that they can afford to have a "live" person communicate to the person etc.There is no need to show the screen names of ALL the other people bidding on that item.Let Ebay start losing some money here and I bet things will be different.I'm sure there's alot more Ebay can do to cut this crime down, it just has to be willing to take some losses and actually help the people using their site for the benefit it was designed for.Or here's another idea, when you sign up for an ebay account, you must put that if fraud occurs, no matter how it occurs, ebay will not be held responsible etc.I think once it's posted like that,and a member must agree to that, let's see how much business ebay will get.That should be not a warning sign on the site, but an agreement by the consumer if they want to use your site.Just a suggestion for the people who are supporting ebay's role in this.


Mary

Aberdeen,
Washington,
U.S.A.
Sporster or? Ebay plain and simple does not care, and one day they will have to care because eventually everyone of us will get screwed over.

#3Consumer Comment

Sun, June 05, 2005

First off to the gentlemen who claims, why did you pay 6K for a 20K bike. The buyer doesn't specifiy whether it was a sportser or a much older bike where int he case 6 K would be legitimate. Also although it may seem weird to buy a bike out of the country, maybe he was trying to get a good deal. I have to agree with the western union part that was probally not the best idea but after all Ebay told him this was a great seller. Ebay plain and simple does not care, and one day they will have to care because eventually everyone of us will get screwed over. I never thought it would happen to me but it has. I feel for you and you are totally on target.


Larry

Tucson,
Arizona,
U.S.A.
Ebay sucks eBay allows this scammer and others to keep on selling stuff

#4Consumer Comment

Fri, June 03, 2005

Lena, No surprise that eBay allows this scammer and others to keep on selling stuff on eBay. I had an ongoing dispute with a fellow selling Arizona real estate on eBay. Not only did his terms violate Arizona law, but this guy was bidding on his own auctions under several different ID's. I reported him numerous times and eBay claimed they had no proof. Even when I was finally able to prove that he was bidding on his own stuff they still let him continue to sell. Yeah, you were kinda dumb sending money out of the country by Western Union, but if eBay knows of a scam it's their job to kick the seller off.


Dave

Jacksonville,
Florida,
U.S.A.
NOT REALLY EBAY'S FAULT

#5Consumer Comment

Fri, June 03, 2005

There are hundreds of scams going on. Ebay can't keep track of them all. It's up to the consumer to be informed. If you felt uncomfortable about doing a Western Union transfer, you were RIGHT!!! That is the oldest scam around. You buy a big ticket item for next to nothing on Ebay - THAT SHOULD BE YOUR FIRST CLUE!! You don't buy a $20,000 bike for 6K!!! Then, they want you to WESTERN UNION the funds? Geesh, you weren't born yesterday. These scams have been going on for years, where have you been, a deserted island?? There is no way to track money with Western Union! I bet the guy told you NOT TO TELL WESTERN UNION that is was an Ebay transaction, didn't he? Probably because of taxes he would have to pay... If you HAD told Western Union, they probably would have told you right then and there it was a scam, and wouldn't have taken your money. In my opinion, I would say something to Western Union about it, the person doing the transaction should've questioned you about the LARGE SUM OF CASH YOU WERE SENDING, probably to some foriegn country? Even EBAY warns buyers about these scams. It's all over their website. IT's all over the internet for crying out loud. You will never see your money. It's not ebay's fault. It's yours unfortunately.


Dave

Jacksonville,
Florida,
U.S.A.
NOT REALLY EBAY'S FAULT

#6Consumer Comment

Fri, June 03, 2005

There are hundreds of scams going on. Ebay can't keep track of them all. It's up to the consumer to be informed. If you felt uncomfortable about doing a Western Union transfer, you were RIGHT!!! That is the oldest scam around. You buy a big ticket item for next to nothing on Ebay - THAT SHOULD BE YOUR FIRST CLUE!! You don't buy a $20,000 bike for 6K!!! Then, they want you to WESTERN UNION the funds? Geesh, you weren't born yesterday. These scams have been going on for years, where have you been, a deserted island?? There is no way to track money with Western Union! I bet the guy told you NOT TO TELL WESTERN UNION that is was an Ebay transaction, didn't he? Probably because of taxes he would have to pay... If you HAD told Western Union, they probably would have told you right then and there it was a scam, and wouldn't have taken your money. In my opinion, I would say something to Western Union about it, the person doing the transaction should've questioned you about the LARGE SUM OF CASH YOU WERE SENDING, probably to some foriegn country? Even EBAY warns buyers about these scams. It's all over their website. IT's all over the internet for crying out loud. You will never see your money. It's not ebay's fault. It's yours unfortunately.


Dave

Jacksonville,
Florida,
U.S.A.
NOT REALLY EBAY'S FAULT

#7Consumer Comment

Fri, June 03, 2005

There are hundreds of scams going on. Ebay can't keep track of them all. It's up to the consumer to be informed. If you felt uncomfortable about doing a Western Union transfer, you were RIGHT!!! That is the oldest scam around. You buy a big ticket item for next to nothing on Ebay - THAT SHOULD BE YOUR FIRST CLUE!! You don't buy a $20,000 bike for 6K!!! Then, they want you to WESTERN UNION the funds? Geesh, you weren't born yesterday. These scams have been going on for years, where have you been, a deserted island?? There is no way to track money with Western Union! I bet the guy told you NOT TO TELL WESTERN UNION that is was an Ebay transaction, didn't he? Probably because of taxes he would have to pay... If you HAD told Western Union, they probably would have told you right then and there it was a scam, and wouldn't have taken your money. In my opinion, I would say something to Western Union about it, the person doing the transaction should've questioned you about the LARGE SUM OF CASH YOU WERE SENDING, probably to some foriegn country? Even EBAY warns buyers about these scams. It's all over their website. IT's all over the internet for crying out loud. You will never see your money. It's not ebay's fault. It's yours unfortunately.


Dave

Jacksonville,
Florida,
U.S.A.
NOT REALLY EBAY'S FAULT

#8Consumer Comment

Fri, June 03, 2005

There are hundreds of scams going on. Ebay can't keep track of them all. It's up to the consumer to be informed. If you felt uncomfortable about doing a Western Union transfer, you were RIGHT!!! That is the oldest scam around. You buy a big ticket item for next to nothing on Ebay - THAT SHOULD BE YOUR FIRST CLUE!! You don't buy a $20,000 bike for 6K!!! Then, they want you to WESTERN UNION the funds? Geesh, you weren't born yesterday. These scams have been going on for years, where have you been, a deserted island?? There is no way to track money with Western Union! I bet the guy told you NOT TO TELL WESTERN UNION that is was an Ebay transaction, didn't he? Probably because of taxes he would have to pay... If you HAD told Western Union, they probably would have told you right then and there it was a scam, and wouldn't have taken your money. In my opinion, I would say something to Western Union about it, the person doing the transaction should've questioned you about the LARGE SUM OF CASH YOU WERE SENDING, probably to some foriegn country? Even EBAY warns buyers about these scams. It's all over their website. IT's all over the internet for crying out loud. You will never see your money. It's not ebay's fault. It's yours unfortunately.


Holly

Phoenix,
Arizona,
U.S.A.
Why would you..

#9Consumer Comment

Fri, June 03, 2005

Why would you buy and HD from outside the US? They are made here and you could have bought one from a US dealer/HD Dealership. That would be like me buing a Ford from Japan, come on man, what were you thinking? I don't know what model they advertised but you could have gotten an older bike for that price, less you were looking at a Sportster. USA, USA, USA

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