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  • Report:  #160245

Complaint Review: Jack Of All Games - Louiville Kentucky

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- Columbia, Missouri,
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Jack Of All Games
2613 King Arthur Blvd. Louiville, 75056 Kentucky, U.S.A.
Phone:
410-568-2300
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I bought a software program from a Walmart store. It was called Defender Pro 5-1, it is suppost to have programs to prevent: Pop-ups, Utilities, Firewall and two others. When I put it on my Bell computer, it immediately went to MsDOS mode. I own a Taxicab business and the computer is a company computer. I had information such as: Employee time cards,billing,important documents containing credit card numbers,CVVS codes and many other documents having to do with the running of a transportation company. I got the information from walmart (information of the software company) and called them with my delima.

Steve Grossman the VP of the company and said he was not responsible for:loss of revenue, loss of estimated or anticipated profits from my company, loss of money, lost of anticipated savings, loss of business, loss of opportunity, loss of goodwill, loss of reputation, loss of damage or corrupted data! (Limitation of Liability) clause. I have to keep on file all 10-99's for the IRS in case I'm audited! At first the company said that they would refund the cost to get my computer out of a computer repair facility of up to $527.00 (now), they say that they will pay up to: $300.00 for repair on my computer subject to; Verifiable invoices from a reputable repair facility. They can tell how reputable a computer repair facility is from 3,000 miles away! I asked for $1,000.00 for: My down time (3 days) of business, secretary expenses, telephone, faxes, and the down time for my employees due to Not having my computer. My Dell was a $700.00 system with (Many) programs on it. Programs which I run the risk of (infecting) my new computer of which (I) bought. Sunbelt Software, Inc. is being investigated by the FBI and the Secret Service for: grabing information stored on (window systems) and transmitted to servers, controlled by another person or person(s) to aid in profit and possible theft of private information obtained by businesses for the sole purpose of delivery of goods or service.

I wanted the company to call me and pay a minimum of $1,000.00 for my losses. (NOW), I want to expose the practices of the company. There is not a clear address for Steve Grossman however he faxed me from his personal fax machine @ 203-256-1367. That was on the fax he sent me. This is a big company vs. a small business however, alot of people shop at walmart. I have all faxes and documents pertaining to this fiasco! If you need proof, I have it!!

Keith

Columbia, Missouri
U.S.A.


10 Updates & Rebuttals

Ken

Randolph,
Massachusetts,
U.S.A.
A Virus?

#2Consumer Comment

Fri, October 14, 2005

None of this makes sense. If you got a virus, how is that Walmart's fault, or for that matter the software company? DO you have current anti-virus software installed and running? If so, there wouldn't be any problem restoring your data. Why did you need a new computer? Even if you did have a virus, a re-format of the drive would allow you to restore all those good backups you have. What it really sounds like here (reading between your lines) is that you had a hardware failure that had noting to do with the software, and certainly not Walmart, you didn't have a backup, you're screwed and looking for someone to hang it on besides yourself. If this isn't the case, you didn't express your problem very well.


Keith

Columbia,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
To Carolina

#3REBUTTAL Individual responds

Fri, October 14, 2005

I don't remember saying that (I didn't Back Up Anything!) I backed up my computer all the time! Let me explain; When you download items on your computer (saved or not), there is still a virus on the system. It would be (stupid @#$%) for me to put anything on a new computer for the fear of leashing into my cache, which means (in short), I have to deal with a problem that I should not have to deal with, to begin with! Thats my point! Thank you Carolina for your input. I have moved on with my business and learned not to buy anymore software programs from walmart. As for the other reply (you know who you are) I'm not "unleashing on the internet" but merely telling of my problems with software and the company involved. signed: I have moved on!


Charlotte

Oak Grove,
Kentucky,
U.S.A.
Save, Save, Save.

#4Consumer Comment

Thu, October 13, 2005

Actually, yes, it is your responsibility to read the fine print on anything that you buy, regardless of price. It is called consumer responsibility. I have learned the hard way that you should always back up(save) everything that you do. I also run a business, Medical Transcription and everything is done by computer. My system crashed and I lost 3 years worth of stuff. So, my motto now is "Save, Save, Save". Even if you haven't inputted anything. Just to be on the safe side. I've always considered myself an incase of person. I know that your business took a BIG loss, but think of this as a learning experience and next time Save, Save, Save everything. I would rather lose a small amount of data than years worth. Computer systems can crash for any number of reasons. If not for the software than for something else. That is why it is always important to invest in inexpensive discs (to save info) than on expensive repairs. I hope that you are able to recover from this without losing to much. Good luck.


Charlotte

Oak Grove,
Kentucky,
U.S.A.
Save, Save, Save.

#5Consumer Comment

Thu, October 13, 2005

Actually, yes, it is your responsibility to read the fine print on anything that you buy, regardless of price. It is called consumer responsibility. I have learned the hard way that you should always back up(save) everything that you do. I also run a business, Medical Transcription and everything is done by computer. My system crashed and I lost 3 years worth of stuff. So, my motto now is "Save, Save, Save". Even if you haven't inputted anything. Just to be on the safe side. I've always considered myself an incase of person. I know that your business took a BIG loss, but think of this as a learning experience and next time Save, Save, Save everything. I would rather lose a small amount of data than years worth. Computer systems can crash for any number of reasons. If not for the software than for something else. That is why it is always important to invest in inexpensive discs (to save info) than on expensive repairs. I hope that you are able to recover from this without losing to much. Good luck.


Charlotte

Oak Grove,
Kentucky,
U.S.A.
Save, Save, Save.

#6Consumer Comment

Thu, October 13, 2005

Actually, yes, it is your responsibility to read the fine print on anything that you buy, regardless of price. It is called consumer responsibility. I have learned the hard way that you should always back up(save) everything that you do. I also run a business, Medical Transcription and everything is done by computer. My system crashed and I lost 3 years worth of stuff. So, my motto now is "Save, Save, Save". Even if you haven't inputted anything. Just to be on the safe side. I've always considered myself an incase of person. I know that your business took a BIG loss, but think of this as a learning experience and next time Save, Save, Save everything. I would rather lose a small amount of data than years worth. Computer systems can crash for any number of reasons. If not for the software than for something else. That is why it is always important to invest in inexpensive discs (to save info) than on expensive repairs. I hope that you are able to recover from this without losing to much. Good luck.


Charlotte

Oak Grove,
Kentucky,
U.S.A.
Save, Save, Save.

#7Consumer Comment

Thu, October 13, 2005

Actually, yes, it is your responsibility to read the fine print on anything that you buy, regardless of price. It is called consumer responsibility. I have learned the hard way that you should always back up(save) everything that you do. I also run a business, Medical Transcription and everything is done by computer. My system crashed and I lost 3 years worth of stuff. So, my motto now is "Save, Save, Save". Even if you haven't inputted anything. Just to be on the safe side. I've always considered myself an incase of person. I know that your business took a BIG loss, but think of this as a learning experience and next time Save, Save, Save everything. I would rather lose a small amount of data than years worth. Computer systems can crash for any number of reasons. If not for the software than for something else. That is why it is always important to invest in inexpensive discs (to save info) than on expensive repairs. I hope that you are able to recover from this without losing to much. Good luck.


Anne

North Reading,
Massachusetts,
U.S.A.
This is unbelievable

#8Consumer Comment

Thu, October 13, 2005

Keith, you say: My company took a loss. If there is a "Limited Liability" claus as such, It needs to be given at time of purchase. it is not my responsibility to hire an Attorney and read the fine print before purchasing a $20.00 item. My reply: Maybe it wasn't given at the time of purchase, but I guarantee you had to accept it when you installed. It's nobody's fault but your own that you did not read it. If you had read it, you would have seen the Limitation of Liabilility (which is very standard for the industry; no software company will warrant against business loss, that would be completely stupid) and, hopefully, take the necessary precautions, like backing up your data. They were more than generous with you with the offer to pay for hardware repairs. I am very suprised they were willing to do that for a $20 customer and it reflects very, very well on them. If badmouthing them on the internet is the way you repay their generousity, remind me not to do you any favors.


Keith

Columbia,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
Answer to Mary

#9REBUTTAL Individual responds

Tue, October 11, 2005

My company took a loss. If there is a "Limited Liability" claus as such, It needs to be given at time of purchase. it is not my responsibility to hire an Attorney and read the fine print before purchasing a $20.00 item. Walmart called me on October 11th, 2005 and said she was appauled that this happened by the manufacturing company. I took a loss, my employees took a loss, I took a loss in payroll, telephone, ink, faxes, etc. I think I'm entitled to recover my losses only! Why did the company go from $527.00 to $300.00? The $300.00 dollars will not cover the retrieval of information stored on the system and (sweep) of all programs to make sure the system is free from all other viruses. I now have a new computer and have elected to move on. I gave the company two months to answer me regarding this problem, and they won't addredd the problem. If I have a problem in my business, I address it! Problems don't just go away! At least call me and say (Your Done)!


Mary

Middletown,
New Jersey,
U.S.A.
No BACKUPS?

#10Consumer Comment

Tue, October 11, 2005

No software company is responsible for loss of data (or any expense related to such)! That's why backups are so important. Their offer of paying to repair your PC is, in my opinion, quite generous. They have no legal obligation to do so.


Mary

Middletown,
New Jersey,
U.S.A.
No BACKUPS?

#11Consumer Comment

Tue, October 11, 2005

No software company is responsible for loss of data (or any expense related to such)! That's why backups are so important. Their offer of paying to repair your PC is, in my opinion, quite generous. They have no legal obligation to do so.

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