Complaint Review: Human Channel Marketing - Seattle Washington

I had worked for this company relatively recently, and I understand very well how it works.  I didnt do well, not well at all, but everyone pushed for me to succeed till I was let go anyways.  I wasnt decieved in any way, I was simply told it was to be 100% commission based, and a lot of hard work would be invloved to get to the earning potential I was after.  I didnt want to leave when I did, but it was for the better.  Anyways all the people involved including everyone ms.richey pointed out are super awesome people to work with including herself.  I dont think talking down any real business is a justified action in result of you sucking at the job.  If youre not cut out for a sales position, you will fail.  All I can say is that it was meant for me to be there as long as I was, and the job I have now blows anything ive ever done out of the water and I would absolutely love to see them again.  I wouls never have even thought to do what I am now if it wasnt for them stickin my rear end out in the middle of portland knocking on doors all d**n day long every d**n day.  Dmi team freezer no matter what and I still remember everything mr foster ran me through.  Im better because of it and my family and I benefits from it.  Its a lifestyle more than a job.  You either do it or you dont.  Just leave n shut up and take responsibilty for your own inability to do anything positive for yourself, not one d**n person from team freeze wouls steer anyone the wrong direction.   Not happening.  The end.    -Justin Abbott, team freeze. 

Wow this is the most ridiculous claim I have yet to see on this. I use to work for this company in Vancouver Wa under Jeremy Foster, Not only did I help people save a ton on money I made a good profit off of it. That may be because I applied myself though and when I didnt make Good money it was my own fault. This is a great company with a ton of super awesome Individules. I also walked away from this job with the best mind set of my entire life. I will never forget any of these wonderful people like Jeremy Foster "J-Frost", Kelsie Turner "Kaddilak K", Lance Leuzinger "Beastmode", Austin Calderon "My Ninja". I have never worked with such a group Of inspiring people who had my back no matter what. This was the best place Ive ever worked in my entire life I was sad to go. This job was filled with inspired people with great attitudes and love what they do. Ive never been around so many positive people in my entire life. I myself was never a very positive person until I came around this group of people. I am just disgusted that anyone is talking trash on this company because this company Is filled with some of the best people I have ever known and they gave me the opportunity To make a lot of money when I had nothing. Dont believe this internet blog spot bullshit This is a great job with a lot of great potiential not only to make money but to grow as an Individual as well.

Ill make this short and sweet to the unmotivated bums on these complaints. HCM is a company just trying to set up a platform for people who want a JOB. The harder you work for Sam and HCM...the more he will pay you. You just have to be willing to put in the work. Whoever you are...you gave them 4 days. Your the joke, not HCM. Your just feeling entitled like someone owes you something. I put in 3 months of hard work, and i could see the payoff coming. Unfortunately i had to go to Boston for 2 months shortly after i started, but they are willing to give me the chance to come back and start where i left off. Good luck finding that somewhere else "mister i quit after 4 days"lol. You do have one thing right though...Sam and HCM arent, and shouldnt pay you for your 4 days on uncommited work.

Thank god for this report!  

My name is Robert Carter, and I worked for this company for more than 8 months. Not only can I prove beyond any reasonable doubt that this company is a ripoff, but I can provide 13 phone numbers of other ex-employees that will say the same. Don't listen to these above rebuttals because they are from employees that Tim Padden (the owner) made them write. One ex employee that is owed money was told that he would get his last check only after he wrote a rebuttal. If you want solid proof, call me anytime.

(((Redacted)))
Rob


CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.

I am interested in knowing whether the owner of HCM did follow through and send a check as promised.

Despite everyone in the Seattle office attempting to discount my experience which is to be expected,  the owner of human channel marketing contacted me by phone.  Despite individuals at the Seattle office claiming that nobody would care if i voiced my concerns online It came as a pleasant surprise to learn that the owner of HCM was very concerned and willing to spend the time asking questions and listening to what I had to say. 

The owner of HCM explained to me his business model and it was at that point it became clear to the Owner of HCM and myself that some serious miscommunication and misunderstandings had taken place.  Its my belief now that the problems I experienced stemmed from a few rouge elements in the Seattle office rather then the business model the owner of HCM has attempted to establish. 

I explained to the owner that my main concern is not the money Per Se but that others looking for a job are able to obtain employment / proprietorship with HCM without wasting time that could mean the difference between being able to eat or paying rent as was the case with me during my episode with HCM. 

At this point I attribute my issues to the fact that the individuals who solicited my expertise in sales failed to make certain points clear to me upon my signing on with HCM and I kinda wish I had been in contact with the owner sooner. 

In this case the sad part is that everyone is losing an opportunity here.  I am a top producer in sales and unfortunately HCM and I have passed each other up due to a simple miss understanding.  Everyone loses in this deal.  

It seems to me from speaking to the owner that a person would be able to find lucrative employment at any HCM office provided the office is being run the way the owner of HCM expects each office to be handled.  Those of you in the Seattle office are the ones who have some work to do in order to get in line with the owners goals. 

When the owner called me I was concerned he was trying to sell me on removing this post by paying me however he passed the test.  He was sincere with me about his business model,  he didn't discount my experience and he made sure each aspect of my issues and concerns would be solved directly. 

He assured me that not only would I be payed in full due to the miss-communications but more importantly that he would be touching down in Seattle in order to roll some heads and re-train and arrange the office so that it will meet his standards of operation.  The owner seemed committed and to me that is what resolves this issue in my mind.

I also discussed the Quick Fix issue in relation to the urine analysis required by HCM.  As it turns out the rouge element who made those suggestions has been dealt with.  I am very glad this is not the regular practices of HCM. 

For a short time I was under the impression it might have been a common practice.  After speaking with the owner I am glad to report back that the owner was proactive in resolving that issue in addition to the other issues I experienced stemming from the Seattle office.  I can say now that the owner of HCM is committed to a drug free work environment.

I will update this post upon receipt of my paycheck and again to the owner I thank you for your willingness to speak with me and your determination to take care of me and make sure your office is being run according to the high standards you have set out to achieve.  Despite the experience I had its nice to know there are business owners who are as committed as you have shown you are and I wish you the best of luck in dealing with the Seattle Office.

DEAR PLAINTIFF,

You said so yourself, you should have read the fine print. I can add to your list of should-have-done-homework:

1- Know the industry your stepping into, and know as much about it as possible; it is obvious after reading your complaint that you knew nothing about the cable industry before agreeing to work in it.

2- Know what your specialty will be; it is obvious that you did not know much about sales or customer service, and you definitely did not know anything about direct marketing (door to door sales). If you did work in sales before, I can say that you have a lot of learning yet to do.

3- Know the company your about to work with; did you look up anything on Stampede Marketing? Did you look up anything on Human Channel Marketing? Did you ask questions about the company, like, who owns it? Who is under that person, and who is under that person? If you had done that, you would realize that the "pyramid" scheme does not apply to Human Channel Marketing, because by definition a pyramid scheme is, "...a non-sustainable business model that involves the exchange of money primarily for enrolling other people into the scheme, often without any product or service being delivered...", which obviously does not apply in this scenario because there are both products and services being offered.

Furthermore, if you had done your homework on the company you went out to represent, you might have been more comfortable representing that company.

4- Know the competitive companies in the same market; who else was offering contracts in that area? Did you know anything about their company and how their model/benefits/pay differed from Human Channel Marketing? If you had done that you would have found a wealth of knowledge, and perhaps even made some assertions about wanting (or not) to work for Human Channel Marketing.

5- Know your business entities; you were not an employee, you were a subcontracted sole-proprietor. The differences are in the relationship between you and the contractor, and how you pay taxes. You were your own business, which makes it all the more important for you to be out there working with the public with integrity.

Which leads me to my next point--

INTEGRITY IS EVERYTHING IN BUSINESS. So the fact that you didn't know these things prior to getting started is not Human Channel Marketing's fault, alone. It is also your fault. You should have done your homework.

I can honestly say that I understand your pain, because I was formerly a subcontractor with Human Channel Marketing, and they treated me as fairly as I deserved while abiding in their agreement with me. I should have known the answers to the matters I have described as above, which would have really helped me in dealing with the anger I felt in leaving Human Channel Marketing, because it was my own fault.

What I can also say is, that there are plenty of opportunities out there, and if you look hard enough, you will find a company that defies a lot of the vastly negative generalizations that you have listed in your "rip off."

For the record, I know Chet and he is great guy. He is the kind of manager that will spend the extra time and effort helping a good cat get better at his/her job. If you would have spent more time with Chet, you may have realized that he really does take care of his customers and his personel. I have seen and heard him in action, and he is the kind of person that does as he says. I appreciate his willingness to go the extra mile for the people he works with.

As for Lauren, she is probably just sick of dealing with angry people that consistently accuse her of being the bad guy (girl... hmm hmm), when in actuality, you didn't do your homework or read the fine print. Her job is to cover the expenses, and all the materials that were used to bring you on board. She is lucky you made any sales to cover what it cost to bring you on board.

As for LeeRoy, he is an outstanding salesperson, a likeable person, and a good friend. Sure, I have my disagreements in the business model that they choose to use at Human Channel Marketing, and that is why I left to start my own business. Ultimately, I believe that they could be one of the best door to door companies out there if they were just paying a more reasonable percentage to their sales people. I believe that the sales person should be getting atleast 70% of the revenue from each sale, but HCM pays half that or less which is a painful fact to face. Ultimately, my beliefs and my standards about those things differ from HCM, and that is why I should have not agreed to work with HCM just as you should not have.

But don't go getting your personal feeling all mixed up with the business facts. Comcast is an outstanding corporation that truly goes the extra mile for all of their customers. HCM is a decent group of hard working people that do what they say, you just had different standards and expectations, and that is not their fault. So quit slandering the industry and the honest sales person that is out their pouring their soul into their sole-proprietorship, and taking good care of the customer, which you may have failed to do.

Sammy Davis
MACKaizen Marketing Group, LLC

Thats one of the supers who wrote that gaurenteed.  Most likely Chet or Lee Roy Whaley Jr who posted the responce comment since im very sure there is not even one other employee working at the Seattle office of Human Channel that could possibly articulate themself to such a point.

Lee Roy and Chet are both team leaders at the seattle office for human channel and thats the snake oil.  They just tried to sell you HA HA HA HA.  To say comcast has any form of decent customer service is a joke.  Your making it very clear that your just another person trying to sell the scam.  Go ahead and just sell it to yourself because my readers arent buying it. 

Who wants a door to door sales persons phone number anyways.  You are door to door sales people ! DESPITE YOUR BELIEF you are not customer service reps as you would like to convince the public.  The test is do you knock on doors ?  and do you sell somthing ?  the end.

I think your responce makes it obvious that I have been frank in my posting.  I think the tens of thousand of people reading this knows that. Honestly it was that same great sales pitch you so eloquently detailed in your responce that sold me on taking the job in the first place.   Unfortunately it all equates to yet another variation of the hyper motivational BS sales pitches typical of all new hire pyramid scams 

I have been in the sales force 15 years, I have owned and sold 3 sales based organizations and I have helped many other business owners become established through sales based marketing strategy.  I think I should be able decern a scam in 3 days.  Clearly it should not take a reasonable individual 6 months to figure out that the place he/she works is scam company profiting from the misfourtune of others.

By the way genious a new hire scam doesnt work unless the employee quits shortly after having been hired so you can screw him/her with a contract.  Considering the empty office you work from,  the lack of training and the joke sales meeting held at Human Channel my having quit within 3 days should have come as no supprise.

Further you can try and discount my experience all you want with your sales pitch or whatever but untill I am paid you have proven nothing and merely re-enforced my arguments.  In the future I would like to encourage you to keep responding as you are only creating more weight behind this post strengthening its position in the search engines.  At least your number one for somthing.

Human Channel could just pay me what im owed.

I was extremely offended by the original post above, from a guy that was in the office for no more than 3 days, and sold products to 3 customers or less. Ive been here for a year....and in that time nobody else has ever made a slanderous report.

Working for Human Channel Marketing over the last year I have sold door to door in the Seattle market for over 8 months of my time with the company, and 4 months in the Colorado market. In that time I have been treated more than fair.  I make more money then anywhere else I have ever worked- more than selling cars, insurance, or cutlery ever did. By the way, I left those professions because despite being successful, i didnt like selling fear or forcing the sale on people. I make $1500-$2000 every week just from personal sales, and the company has paid every dollar owed.

Being commission only sales, we have the opportunity to make as much money as we want, while helping to lower customers bills. Since comcast promotional offers do not include contracts, and are actually the lowest in the market for internet and phone - (do your own research, i look at peoples bills all day) we are able to save people money year after year and give them the freedom to change providers any time they want.  We also help make sure the customer is not being charged for equipment or services they don't want or need. All my customers are happy - i know because i give them my personal number, and Ive made a lot of friends from customers.

As salesman, we all have the opportunity to earn high pay from the day we walk in the door. I started making close to $1000 with human channel marketing every week within my first month, and everyone coming into the company has that same opportunity as when i started a year ago. Last week I went on a 10 day paid vacation to hawaii as a reward for 360 personal sales in 90 days. We went skydiving, scuba diving, and had a great time with the locals. We have trips put up as rewards as a model for how we work and have fun.

Every day I work i save people thousands of dollars a year cumulatively, selling the highest rated highest customer service product available. I love my job, more than any other job ive had in the past. Having met almost everyone involved in Human Channel Marketing I can safely say that this organization is solid and we pride ourselves on keeping around positive people that help us move forward, and getting rid of negative people.