Complaint Review: Gineton Guedes Alencar Ben David Alencar and Otoniel Ferreira - Los Angeles California

 This rebuttal is to clarify, inform, and bring out the truth in regards, to the groundless statements presented by Mr. Carlos Escobar, against Gineton Alencar, Otoniel Ferreira, Ben David Alencar. To comprehend the depths of these falsehoods, a background must be established. I (Gineton Alencar) was introduced to a man named Greg, who worked in Africa, by a business associate of mine in Brazil. Greg was in the business of buying and selling gold in Africa and has many years of experience in such field.

I promptly researched this market, and then traveled to the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) where the gold was harvested. Greg introduced me to a Mr. Camille Nzau, who showed me the process for the distribution of gold, in a security house/brokers office. Mr. Nzau showed me many boxes of gold which they in Africa referred to as "the Product.” It wasn't until later, that I learned that once "the product” in the Congo is produced, it would then be taken to surrounding countries and sold, as a different "product.”

Upon that discovery, I also learned that it would be mixed with copper and brass and used to scam people from all over the globe. I then discovered this selling of fake gold takes place all over Africa. After visiting the Congo, Mr Nzau (our African contact) informed us that we had to fly from the Congo to Uganda to get proper documentation for it to be shipped out from Entebbe Airport. After seeing how the operation was ran in Uganda I went back home to the US, as it would take some time for the product to arrive in Uganda.

A couple months later I returned to Uganda, to resume learning about the operation and get some business going. Once there we met with another business associate of Mr. Nzau, named Mr. Robert. There we waited at the Forrest Cottage Hotel until a partner of mine I wanted to bring in on the deal arrived, Mr. Otoniel Ferreira. Little did Mr. Ferreira or I know that Mr. Nzau and Mr. Robert were planning on scamming us with fake gold. After a couple of days staying at the Forrest Cottage Hotel, we met at breakfast and saw 4 foreign men that had arrived from the USA/MEXICO. They were staying at the same lodge as our group.

These men were, Mr. Edi Rivera, his nephew Andrew, Mr. Carlos Pratero and Mr Joseph. After breakfast we finally introduced ourselves to each other and got to talking, and we soon realized that they were there for the same purpose as us, to trade in gold. After getting to know each other we all felt that Edi Rivera’s group as well as Mr. Ferreira and I could and should help each other, we negotiated terms to work together (picture below of groups eating together). Mr Edi Rivera was involved in many other ventures, besides the gold business. He was going all over Uganda buying cattle to export to Asia. He introduced us to some of his supposedly high ranking government contacts, the president of Uganda's brother, some generals, politicians, etc. We also introduced some of our contacts to them, the main one being a Mr. Kevin Nsanimana, who I had recently met.

I myself have worked in the mining business for many years, and was introduced to Mr. Kevin Nsanimana through a contact of mine from Dubai. Then together we went around Kampala, Uganda to different gold brokerages/agencies, to view the products available (pictured below). After seeing many agencies, we found the office of an agency that we all thought we could work with. It was headed by a Mr. John and a Mr. Jorge. Both from the Congo but operated in Uganda. After seeing the product, Edi Riviera, promptly asked us to allow him to arrange more money from his partners, and investors to combine with the money from my group. He suggested for us to make an investment partnership deal for 5kg of gold. He said for 2 kg of gold his group would put up the $60 thousand dollars and Mr. Otoniel Ferreira and myself would put up the money for the rest of the investment.

Then we would take abroad the 5kg of gold to sell. He contacted his partners/investors and arranged $60k, but under one condition that we would give him (Mr. Edi Riviera) $1,200 on the spot and give him a "kick back” (an under the table commission, of which at the time I did not know of any illegal connotations connected to the phrase) of $4 thousand dollars after the money was released in the USA. This kickback money was given to one of his relatives, while Edi remained in Uganda. We all agreed to this business venture and started to move forward. Edi contacted two of his business partners in California to invest with us, Mr. Carlos Escobar along with another partner Mr. Carlos Pratero (who at this time had already flown back to CA, USA). Arrangements were made to procure the funds, from the hands of Mr. Carlos Escobar. Immediately Mr Otoniel Ferreira flew back to the USA to collect $60,000 dollars in total from Carlos Escobar, so he could take it back to Africa as well as to give Mr. Edi Riviera his $4,000 which Otoniel then gave to his Edis relatives by hand at the Glendale Galleria Mall.

During this meeting it was agreed upon beforehand to expedite $20,000 dollars to Mr. Gineton Alencar (myself) to speed up the process in Africa. However, Mr. Alencar could not make it to the meeting with Mr. Ferreira and Mr. Escobar in California, and so he asked his son Mr. Ben-David Alencar (an LA local) to sign the receipt and service the money on his behalf and then send the money to Mr. Gineton Alencar. Ben was at the meeting initially, however due to time constraints had to leave before receiving any money. Before he left he signed on the receipt his permission to give Mr. Ferreira responsibility of servicing the money. (See pictures below.) It should be made clear that this was the only involvement Ben-David Alencar had with this endeavor. He never took any money, he never signed any contracts other than the service of money agreement, which he then relieved his responsibility to Mr. Ferreira. He has not been to Africa, or worked in any other capacity with anyone else mentioned in this rebuttal. After the money was collected in the US by Mr. Otoniel, he flew back to Africa, and both groups went together to buy the gold, at Mr. John and Mr. Jorges office. We saw the gold being smelted and packaged, but we didn’t know at the time that this was fake gold being presented, and handed to us.

After the operation was started, Mr Edi, his nephew Andrew and Joseph left Uganda and returned to the USA, but Mr Ferreira, Mr Kevin and I stayed there to finish the deal to take the gold back to the US. These 5 kg that had just been acquired, were then to be resold at a profit to be a return on the investment for both groups. Mr Edi's group which included investor Mr. Carlos Escobar, Mr. Edi Riviera, Mr. Carlos Pratero, Mr. Joseph, and Edi’s nephew Andrew (who was very involved). The other group which was comprised of Myself (Gineton Alencar), Otoniel Ferreira, and Mr. Kevin Nsanimana. All investments together we paid over $180,000 to the gold scammers and professional thieves in Kampala, Uganda. This includes the 5kg of gold, the taxes, fees, and other expenses to procure and export the gold. After buying the gold from the smelting facility, we the group (Otoniel, Kevin, and Myself) took it for testing.

To our frustration and disappointment we discovered it was fake gold that had been dealt to us by Mr. Jorge, and Mr. John. We didn’t know what to do in this situation, so we sought help from the authorities in Uganda. Unfortunately, we came to realize that everyone and everything in Uganda runs under corruption. We did file a police report (which we had to pay to file, pictured below). The police agreed to act, only after we paid for the fuel in the police cars, and paid for their food at the JINJA ROAD POLICE STATION IN KAMPALA we went with the police officers to the gold agents office where Mr Jorge and John worked. The police arrested them and the entire gang of scammers and thieves. 8 thieves in total were taken to jail all of which worked for Jorge and John, (find police report in print below). The police put them in jail but never recovered any of our money. We kept pushing the police to help us get our money back, but to our surprise 5 days later when we returned to the Jinja road police station to try and collect our money again and asses our situation of the theft.

We found out that all of the scammers had bribed the police and had all been freed. Now no one could help us. We from our side lost all our investments along with Edi's group and Mr Carlos Escobar. We had all lost our money invested in this risky Ugandan gold business. Afterwords, my group stayed in Africa in an attempt to recoup some of our lost investments, by trying to find other business ventures. During this time I stayed in constant communication with with both groups to see if we could come out of this on a positive note. Unfortunately we did not. After the business investment failed and all the parties lost their investments, aggressive acts started to take place from Mr. Escobar, and Mr. Riviera. Such as threats, aggression, and harassing phone calls that were made to put fear in the all those involved. Mr Alencar’s son Ben David was also harassed with phone calls and messages, and threats and actions were made to try and collect the money that was lost.

Ben David was not involved in any of my business ventures, and knows little details of things that occurred. Mr. Edi also harassed me (Gineton Alencar) on the phone, and put an "enforcer” on the phone with me at one point threatening to "get me”, if I did not pay back their money in 24 hours. As if it was my responsibility to recoup everyone's losses. I wasn’t sure how to take this confrontation, so I asked Carlos Escobar, and he assured me I should take it seriously as he also believed Edi to be shady. (Photos Below) That is the truth of this endeavor. Now we must clarify some points about the partnership, investments, and the transactions that both the groups became a part of. See photos and prints of messages for context.

1. It started first as a purchase of gold from Mr. Jorge and Mr. John in Africa, but it became a direct joint venture investment to trade gold from Africa.

2. It became a complicated situation for our group (Otoniel, Kevin, and I) because Edi and Carlos were trying to go behind each others backs to manipulate all of the operations.

3. Carlos mentioned to me multiple times in different messages that he did not want Edi (his connection) to remain a big part of the deal. Carlos was wanting to cut off Edi from the deal and Edi was trying to do the same thing.

4. Mr Alencar’s son Ben David had nothing to do with this business of gold. He only went to Carlos office to try and help his father and those involved by meeting Carlos and give an affidavit to release the money to him on my behalf. Which he then authorized for Mr Ferreira to pick up $20k for Mr Alencar's expediting of the business for both groups. (see authorization receipt below...) Ben David Alencar has nothing to do with this gold business or partnership between Riviera, Ferreira, Escobar, Pratero, and Alencar Sr. Let it be clear he never, ever picked up any money, he never touched any of this money. He was in his early 20s at the time and was innocent to any lies shared in this report.

5. After the theft and the failed business transaction in Uganda, Mr. Alencar and Mr. Ferreira stayed behind in Uganda in a last attempt to try to recover the money that had been stolen and also to try to get something done in order to accomplish a deal to help all parties involved. But they never were able.

6. The contracts, the promissory notes and all other revisions of the contracts were only done by Mr. Edis group through Mr. Carlos Escobar Attorneys with no legal representation from Mr. Ferreira or, Mr. Alencar's side.

7. THIS NEEDS TO BE REEMPHASIZED. After the business investment failed and all the parties lost their investments, aggressive acts started to take place from Mr. Escobar, and Mr. Riviera. Such as threats, aggression, and harassing phone calls and texts that were made to put fear in the all those involved. Even Mr Alencar son Ben David was also harassed with phone calls and messages, and told that legal actions could be taken against him to collect the money that was lost. Mr. Edi also harassed me on the phone, and put an "enforcer” on the phone with me at one point threatening to "get me”, if I did not pay back their money in 24 hours. As if it was my responsibility to recoup everyone's losses. I wasn’t sure how to take this confrontation, so I asked Carlos Escobar, and he assured me I should take it seriously as he also believed Edi to be shady. (See Pictures below)

8. California's laws were broken when pressure came from Edi and especially Carlos demanding illegal USURY returns of the investments that failed. Whereas Mr. Alencar was harassed to the point of feeling obligated to sign contracts and promissory notes with huge rates of return. Which is far from what the law allows. Such demands of the lost $60k was asked to be recouped as $120k and another time even at $200k on the investment.

9. It was also suggested and had the appearance of pure blackmail when Mr Carlos sent messages and made calls saying that he had friends in high places in government, police etc, stating that he could use his influence to hurt us or even take us to jail, with no mention of courts or application of the law. (photo below)

10. It, should also be noted here that Mr Edi was the leader/representative of his group. He was in charge of finding the gold trade deals, the product, and the seal of approval. None of this was mentioned in the ripoff report. (unedited picture of him with Mr. Ferreira checking out the gold.)

11. It should also be noted that the address listed in the rip off report was Ben Davids home address, no business was ever conducted at said address. This is his home, the addition of this in the rip off report can only be perceived as a form of harassment.

12. Another form of harassment is his threatening to slander Ben Davids name to those involved in the entertainment industry as this was the sole reason Ben David lived in Los Angeles. The affects of his harassment got to the point that Ben David no longer felt comfortable living at his apartment, due to it being wrongfully exposed on the internet.

13. It was mentioned in the report about our faith, as a sign of discrimination, and harassment. It is completely tactless to bring up ones faith into a business endeavor, as a form of demeaning ones character.

14. It has become a known thing around the globe that gold scamming in Africa is a huge problem and both groups became a prey of the scammers.

15. Carlos claimed to have proof that I (Gineton Alencar) have 5 million dollars in Dubai. This is a flat out lie, no truth behind this. Therefore I am filing this rebuttal to present to the ripoff report site and all others who may run into this report, that this report is false, groundless, filled with contradictions, full of typos, lacking full evidence of "proofs”, lacking any mention of the other parties involved, and should be regarded only as a spiteful statement in an attempt to slander the names of those aforementioned. The reality of what took place is not the same as what is stated here and so this report should be made null and void.

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Ben David Fuzaro, Otoniel Ferreira and Gineton Alencar have not paid what is owed. They still transacting with Gold and have many people involved.

Stay away from these people!!!

Ben David Fuzaro the son hides behind his Actor career and begs for his father while this is stilling from behind! Otoniel Ferreira travels finding people to buy into their Gold Scam.

As of today 4-10-19 No payments and pure lies!