Complaint Review: Ecommerce Education Services LLC; Internet Coaching Program; Ecommerce EDU LLC; Ecommerce Support (ECS); Supplier Source LLC; Supplier Search LLC; E-Business Solutions; Internet Service Provider; - Lindon, Orem, Eagle Utah

Companies and Affiliates:

Web Sites:

Phone Numbers:

Names of Individuals:

Contacts:

Devan Tea    

1-866-850-4871                  

[email protected]

James Ryan

Coaching Department

Supplier Source Division

[email protected]

Physical Addresses:

E-Mail addresses:

Events:

I was unemployed and looking for a job opportunity on me trusted sites as Monster.com, CareerBuilder.com... On Saturday, March 2, 2013 I was searching Internet these sites to find a position in my field. I came across an ad promising income from the work at home. I checked it out only to find out that this opportunity was not for me. On Tuesday, March 5, 2013 a person who introduced himself as Simon contacted me and started to sell their program.  He told me the requirements for this program are:

• To spend only about 10-15 hrs/per week on the computer on line
• To be teachable
• To invest some money (only money makes money)
• And to be able to make decisions quickly

He talked about drop shipping, affiliate marketing, described a perfect product, explain SEO – Search Engine Optimization for my web site and many more.

He then wanted me to draw a line on the paper and mark the Day 1 (when I invest $6,895), Day 30 (when I pay only minimum payment roughly $120 but to make $800), Day 60 to make another minimum payment of $120 but make $2100) Day 90 to make minimum payment of $120 but make $3-4,000) and finally Day120 to make a minimum payment and make 97% of my investment. Shortly after that all my investments are 100% back.

I was not interested explaining the guy that this is not something I would be interested because I was not a type of the person to succeed in such business. He then told me that this is a proven business and they would teach me how to make lots of money in short time. Being without the job, almost desperate, I believed the guy that this could actually work. All I have to do is follow their instructions. I thought myself there are probably lots of people making good money on-line selling products. It seemed to be a good opportunity so I gave the guy my American Express card number and let him charge me $6,895.00 only because he verbally guaranteed an income. These people are very good sales people and know how to fool honest person. He stayed with me the whole time while I was signing the contract and when I stumbled at the sections that stated “I agree that no claims of future earnings have been presented to me by any representative of the company, and that they do not represent I will earn any specific amount of money” because I would not get into this program if I do not make money, he said that this is just standard wordage and he personally guarantee I make money with them, he just can say if it’s $5,000 or $20,000/ months – that will depend on me.

The agreement I signed was providing:

• 10 week proactive coaching
• 6 months reactive coaching
• Web builder
• Research software
• Accounting software

Their representatives talked about future earnings all the time. My decision was based on that speech specifically.  I would understand that they could not guarantee any specific amount of money that I would earn in the future (that would be  impossible) but they did speak of certain amounts also all the time. I was making notes and am providing them to you as well.

On March 6, 2013 my coach, Devan Tea, called me and started official coaching. I took this opportunity very seriously and eagerly started to learn as much as I could. I watched the webinars he recommended and started to learn mostly about e-Bay. My first experience with my coach was very disappointing. He does not provide any coaching; he’s just asking me to learn things on my own. There is no positive direction that would lead even to one successful sale on e-Bay. All he was suggesting was to list as many items as possible to learn from that. I had to learn almost everything about e-Bay, shipping, extra charges on my own and from e-Bay. I started to feel very bad about this program and at this point I was more worried about the getting my money back rather than to earn enough money to support my family. I still believed that with a hard work I will get the money back, even if it would take 6 months or more.

On March 12, 2013 Mike Olaski from different affiliated business, Daeus Financial, called me and explained to me a need for LLC – Limited Liability Company. He explained that while offering merchandise on e-Bay is a good strategy for start the ultimate financial security comes from drop shipping and affiliated companies. In that case I would need:

• Protection
• Corporate Credits
• And tax deductions to write up all start up expenses
• He also explained to me that without LLC I would not be able to drop shipping and other types of activities that provide a lot more opportunities.

He offered me three types of entities:

• Partial Entity for $885.00, which he would not recommend
• Single Cell Entity for 1,885.00
• And Unlimited entity for 3,685.00

See my separate report on Daeus Financial Services.

On March 20,2013 my coach Devan told me that another person named James would call me soon to talk about the drop shipping. On March 27, 2013 James introduced himself calling from another affiliate company – Supplier Search LLC and explained to me that without their help I will not be able to do drop shipping and I would limit myself only to sell on e-Bay. Knowing that making money on e-Bay is hard and I could not support myself (or supplement my regular income) and focusing just on getting my money back I agreed that drop shipping would probably get me out of dept faster.

He offered me this service for additional $12.000 and I said that is just too much and I could not afford such a risk. He spoke to me at least 30 minutes finally offering the same service for $6.500 to which I agreed, especially when I was told that this is very final investment and nothing would hold me back from making a fortune. Only in about 5 days I realized that everything I heard so far was a lie.

• There is no real coaching to the program. The coaching they described while selling the program was to teach how to make money on e-Bay. The coach has no clue how to make money at all. A month later, to support his “coaching” my coach provided me with someone else user name (dacaamch) to check his activity on e-Bay. Yet my coach did not have any information on this client as where he gets the merchandise from or how much he actually profits from selling on e-Bay and told me he was a client of another coach. He could not provide a user name of his own client. The only thing I could find out was this person’s activity (only 20% successful sell of all listings).
• The coaches
• I do not need LLC to do drop shipping. The companies providing the drop shipping or wholesale pricing do not need EIN, the social security number is fine too.
• The drop shippers I investigated require additional payments to set up the accounts with them and other charges. No payment is ever final.
• The agreement with Ecommerce Education Service states that it is between me and Internet Service Provider without any additional data, no address, phone number, e-mail contact – very confusing. I had to investigate on my own to know the company little better.
• It lies in acknowledgement section that no claims of future earnings have been presented to me; and at the closing paragraph that the agreement had been orally read to me in its entirety.
• These people created a “gambling symptom” where I got “in” to make money and then I was throwing in more money to get the lost money back.

But only after purchasing a program from Supplier Source, LLC and getting a chance to contact actual drop shippers I realized that this is not an honest opportunity and there is a lot of misleading information, false promises, and even lies given to me while they had me to sign the agreement that no such claims were made to me.

This company is very confusing to a person who signs in. They are under many different names and addresses. They work with many different affiliates to create confusion. Each charge is coming from different place and e-mails from different domains. They even change the domains while you communicate with them to get a failure notice of undeliverable message from you to them. The agreements carry different names from the charges on the credit card and actual emails.

When I contacted them about my claims, both separately, I was told by my coach:

From: Devan Tea <[email protected]>

Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 3:53 PM

“At this point, a refund is not an option. When signing up for the program and the MSS package you agreed to a contract which states that you had three business days to cancel. You're well past that three day period in both cases.”

How could one coach handle both contracts contracted with two different companies?

Beware, there are dishonest entities, dishonest people and their service is just a scam. Do not get involve with these people! You only loose a lot of money. The only thing that drives them is greedy.