Gary
Vienna,#2Author of original report
Mon, August 18, 2003
First: response to why i moved the machine myself -- this is my option, remember budget makes a living out of renting trucks. A trucking company would move such a machine with a truck, a pallate lift (the one i used was rated at 3 tons), and a lift gate (budget rated their gate at 2600 lbs, the machine, with pallat lift weighed a maximum of 1900 lbs. The problem was caused when the lift fell 6 inches from the weight of the machine, the lift was faulty. Second: The pallate mover was of a size that could easily fit on the lift, the technique was safe. The only difference between a freight company delivery and mine was that the freight company maintain their trucks and lift gates, whereas Budget (because of bankrupcy must cut corners). Third: About nothing sinister about moving the truck. Budget had my credit card on file and was told I needed to keep the truck until an investigation was completed, they could charge my credit card accordingly. I invited ( i begged) for Budget to come inspect the accident scene as it was, that i personally felt that a true answer could only be found if the accident site was left as it was. I had a vienna police officer the next morning document that the truck was not touched and that pictures were taken showing the accident. the police have the originals, as assurance that i did not tamper. The day prior to Budget taking the truck I notified Budget that my insurance company USAA would be sending a forensic engineer to investigate. Now if Budget was honest, and above board then why did they snatch the truck just prior to the inspection, and why after a accident of this type would Budget the next morning rent the truck to another consumer. I tell you why, they needed time to hide the truck for repairs, and if this was investigated we probably would find that the truck was not rented the following day, but they used that as an excuse to keep the engineer from inspecting the truck. Fourth: About the machine being top heavy. The milling machines weight is primarily in the base, the table, the knee ( technical term for the lift portion of the table). The machine does stand from floor to top of machine 78 inches ( 6 1/2 feet). However 80 % of the weight (1,237 lbs) is under 27 inches (2 feet 3 inches). The top 12 inches of the machine is the electric 1.5 horsepower motor weighing 42 lbs. The reason the table base and table lift is referred to as the "knee" is because the working surface (horizontal table) is between 20 inches to 29 inches from the ground ie. at knee level. 88% of weight is under 36 inches. A milling machine requires a heavy sturdy base to reduce vibration and to offset the torque the cutter has on the piece of metal. By the way the machines weight of 1681 lbs includes a 60 lbs vice, of which i placed aside after removing wood outer cover. Also part of this weight is tools box with multiple tools, cutters and collets, weighing 74 lbs also set aside after uncrating. Thus the actual naked weight of the machine is 1537 lbs. Fifth: thank you for asking about my friend, you are the first to show any concern. Since the date of this letter is August 20, 2003 which is also my neighbors 50th birthday. We finished dinner a couple hours ago and had a good time. The admiral was confined to a bed for 4 1/2 months. 7 weeks in the hospital and rehab hospital. Since he is a military person the navy (tax payer) paid the $890,000 for his medical treatment, I have paid nothing, Budget nothing (not even a call). He was treated in a civilian hospital because of the war in Irag, the Naval hospital just did not have the personnel. I will be attending his official retirement ceremony on September 9, 2003. I am mad because Budget dismissed everything without explaination and even a phone call. I recieved in mid July a short letter 4 lines telling me that Budget found Budget not at fault. As a final note: My new milling machine was delivered 3 weeks ago, i used a freight carrier who used a pallat lift and a lift gate. The driver pushed the pallat lift with the new machine onto the lift gate, I helped by being beside the machine to help with stability and to look for trouble. The lift gate worked. thank you gary
Larry
Tucson,#3Consumer Suggestion
Wed, August 13, 2003
Sorry to hear about the injury to your neighbor. But the fact is that you undertook to move a large and cumbersome item using inexperienced personnel and the wrong equipment. I doubt that there was any sinister motive behind removing the truck from your driveway. I assume you rented the truck for one day. After that it became overdue. Budget dealers are instructed to go get overdue trucks if the renter will not return them. You could have extended the rental period by returning to the dealer (without the truck) and putting down an additional deposit. As to the fact that you or your expert could not find the truck later on because the truck had been rented out to someone else, well, that's what Budget does. They make their money renting trucks. They make no money when the truck sits around.
Steve
Portland,#4Consumer Suggestion
Mon, August 11, 2003
Why would any one rent a household moving truck to move a milling machine? A milling machine on a pallet alone is asking for trouble,let alone, moving it with a pallet jack. The facts are a milling machine is top heavy to start with. Then combined with a lift gate on a truck and leaving part of the pallet jack extending into the floor of the truck when the lift gate is lowered will cause the milling machine to tip and fall out of the truck. Why didn't the customer have the freight company deliver the milling machine to his house and have them unload it? Or look in the yellow pages under "Equipment Movers"? I am as frugal as the next person but why blame the truck rental company when the consumer could not handle the job.