Complaint Review: Better Business Bureau of Atlanta Georgia - Atlanta Georgia

Dean E. Smith, President and CEO of the Atlanta Better Business Bureau has not helped in nearly two months to get Alyon Technologies to drop their charges against my phone number.

If you read on you will see he doesn't like the idea of making it onto the RipOffReport.

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Submitted first on 10/28/2002 2:12:21 PM:

CUSTOMER INFORMATION:

Greg

United States

Daytime Phone: PRIVATE

COMPANY OR ORGANIZATION INFORMATION:

Alyon Technologies, Inc.

P.O. Box 923299

Norcross, GA United States 30010 3299

(800)379-0239

alyon.net

COMPLAINT INFORMATION:

Complaint #: 849XXX

Complaint Type: General Complaint (not a car maker)

Date Received: 10/28/2002

Primary Complaint Classification: Credit or Billing Disputes

Secondary Complaint Classification: Contract Disputes

Complaint:

I am sending this complaint regarding Alyon Technologies,P. O. Box 92399, Norcross, Ga 30010-3299, (800) 379-0239 an Adult Web site located in Norcross, Georgia. I received a bill from this web site for access to adult material according to the bill. No adult in this home approved or participated in this.I called the company to dispute the charges and was told I need to put better parental controls on my computer. The fact that this material is made available without a credit card leads me to believe this company is specifically targeting minors.

Allowing someone using the internet to enter this website without a Credit Card and Proper Identification should be unacceptable business practice in your community. I would appreciate hearing from you. A Certified Letter has been sent to Alyon Technologies of Norcross,GA. A representative of the company tried to reinforce the validity of this type of service. There is nothing valid about the service they provide.

I have every intention of contacting every resource at my disposal to shut their operation down. I also believe this company may be participating in using a file which opens an Internet Virus or Trojan Horse with their software into any computer that it is opened into.

Desired Settlement: Other (requires explanation)

Settlement Explanation:

Cancel the charge against my phone number for the amount of $161.37 and block any future access to your services. I also hope that local, state and federal law enforcement take necessary steps to hold this company accountable for allowing adult content material to be viewed by minors by using a NoCredit access to their website.

Customer Service Rep: Mr. unknown

Product or Service: Adult Web Site

Model Number:

Account Number: AL02049XXX

Order Number:

Salesperson: Mr. unknown

Payment Made: No

Purchase Price: 161.37

Disputed Amount: 161.37

Payment Method:

Purchase Date: 10/14/2002

Problem Date: 10/14/2002

Complaint Dates: 10/25/2002

The bureau that will handle your complaint is:

BBB of Metropolitan Atlanta

P.O. Box 161447

Atlanta, GA 30321

Phone: (404)766-0875

Fax: (404)768-1085

Email: [email protected]

WWW: http://www.atlanta.bbb.org

Dec. 03, 2002 (remember I filed a complaint first on 10-28-2002)

Dear BBB of Atlanta:

I sent you a complaint regarding Alyon Technologies of Norcross, Georgia. That complaint was in regards to a bill from that company for alleged use of their pornographic web site. I have not received a response back from Alyon. I see that according to your records you have received at least six (6) complaints on this company in the past 12 months. What is the status of my complaint?

This complaint was also filed with several government agencies. It would make your community look a lot better if you could help to shut down these type of operations. Thank you for any response you can give to me.

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December 5, 2002

Dear Mr. Smith,

Thank you for your response. Now please go after Alyon Technologies and get my charges removed. They should be a 'thorn in your side' anyway. Adult pornographic material being made available to minors? Please go to http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2002/11/integretel.htm to see how my complaint is almost word for word , the same complaint.

Regards, Greg

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December 18, 2002

Mr. Smith,

I see the number of complaints your Better Business Bureau has jumped from 6 to 38 in just a week.

But, have you done anything for me about this company?

They want me to verify minors living in my home and then only intend on removing one minute's worth of time from the bill they say accrued on my phone number.

You aren't leaving me much choice but to complain about you as well.

If I don't get some positive information from you in the next day or so I'll have to recommend your BBB to the RipOffReport.

Would you be dragging your feet if this had happened to you and your family?

Best Regards,

Greg

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----- Original Message -----

From: Dean E. Smith/BBB Metro Atlanta

To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 7:53 AM

Subject: Alyon Technolgies

Mr. PRIVATE CITIZEN: First and foremost, let me say that we will strive to assist you in resolving your grievance with Alyon Technologies. Our process is voluntary and informal, but overall we have an 85% success rate in resolving complaints. Secondly, is the information you found on the ripoffreport web site correct, not entirely.

There are certain types of disputes that we dont handle, because we are not a legal agency, nor a governmental agency and cannot handle certain types of disputes. Rest assured, that there are plenty more that we do handle. I dont know who these people are that have provided this information online, nor do I know the particular circumstances of their cases. They may feel that we didnt help them in accordance with their expectations; however, we never represent that we can solve each and every problem. Sometimes, the complainant is unjustified or unreasonable and will never be satisfied no matter what is done.

The BBB is an organization founded in 1912. The Atlanta BBB has been in existence since 1937. IF the charges levied against us in the ripoffreport were true, do you believe that we could have survived for as long as we have? Remember, that anyone can say anything they want online with very little consequence, and its difficult to know the source of those comments or why they were said to begin with and our response is that we strive to do the very best we can to help consumers and businesses.

Thank you,

Dean E. Smith

President/CEO

BBB of Metropolitan Atlanta, Inc.

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12-18-2002

FROM: Dean E. Smith, President CEO BBB of Atlanta

We are endeavoring to work with this company to assist in

resolving your complaint. The delay is not necessarily on

our part and at this time is with the company. We are

continuing to pursue your complaint with the company and

will notify you as soon as we have a response from the

company to your complaint. Before you say anything

negative about us, remember that our assistance is costing

you absolutely nothing and we are working diligently to try and help you. If you wish to report us to the "rip-off report", that's your option, but be sure to be objective and completely factual. Threatening us with that will not speed up this company responding to your complaint.

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12-18-2002

TO: Dean E. Smith, BBB of Atlanta

The BBB of Atlanta Georgia may "Endeavor to Persevere" but Dean E. Smith needs to take these complaints seriously. I don't know why the BBB of Atlanta has stayed in business so long. You sure haven't done a thing for me in nearly two months. You are standing on the fact this company is not responding. That reason just is not good enough. Have you used all the resources at your disposal to make contact with Alyon Technologies?

Greg

PRIVATE, California
U.S.A.

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