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Complaint Review: Tina Norris TNT Mgmt Tnt Casting Des Moines Iowa - Des Moines Iowa

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Tina Norris TNT Mgmt Tnt Casting Des Moines Iowa
Des Moines, Iowa, U.S.A.
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Mystery online attacker bedevils Des Moines company

Source: DesMoinesRegister

Date: 08/11/08

By: Jeff Eckhoff

Link: http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080...

Officials of a Des Moines company that supplies models and product demonstrators for nationwide promotional events claim that a mysterious Internet poster has cost them $500,000 in business with negative comments and allegations over the past two years.

But they aren't sure whom to sue.

"We don't know her name, and we don't know her physical address," said Robert Holliday, an attorney for TNT Management. "I've been a lawyer for a long time. This is the weirdest thing I've ever seen."

An expert says such situations have exploded over the past decade as Internet traffic migrated from large, content-policing Internet portals such as CompuServe and America Online to a slew of smaller providers.

"It's always been possible to sue someone who is slamming you, but what you have is a right without a remedy," said Michael Fertik, a Harvard University law graduate who founded ReputationDefender.com to help victims of cyber-libel fight back.

"You've got a right to information that the Web site is not obligated to keep," he said. "And it may take you two years of legal proceedings to get this information. By then, your company's out of business."

TNT officials say they have been plagued by anonymous comments from "John Doe and/or Jane Doe" on Craigslist and other Web sites that allege the models it hired routinely have problems getting paid.

Court papers say the online attacks have been perpetrated by someone in Minnesota with the e-mail address [email protected]. Court battles in four states over efforts to unlock the poster's identity culminated last month at a hearing in which the unnamed woman was questioned by telephone.

The 21-year-old college student, when contacted by e-mail by The Des Moines Register, said she was a former model whose online criticisms of TNT were accurate and defensible. She did not confirm her real name.

"I don't think they're actually going to sue me for anything," she said. "They're just mad at me for trying to get my money. ... It's just more of their bullying."

Holliday denied the alleged nonpayment.

"We will find this person, and we will give her an opportunity in a court of law to prove that," he said.

Court papers say the anonymous comments posted on TNT help-wanted ads and industry bulletin boards have made it difficult for the company to do business. TNT also blames the woman for repeatedly "flagging" its Craigslist ads under a process that automatically leads to their removal after a certain number of complaints.

Documents say that TNT was forced to advertise jobs without using the company name, and that would-be business partners backed out when they learned of previous criticism.

In another prominent Internet case, a federal judge in Connecticut recently rejected pleas by "John Doe 21" that he be allowed to remain anonymous in a lawsuit filed by two female Yale University students. The women alleged that they were harassed over a two years by postings on AutoAdmit.com that purported to describe their sexual history and encouraged posters to stalk one of the women with a cell phone camera.

The woman connected to Stephybaby1985@yahoo .com, who said she is a Marine officer candidate, said her postings about TNT Management were intended to warn the public about unsavory business practices.

"Other promo models need to know that this company is doing this, and they need to protect themselves," she said. "Independent contractors aren't protected by labor laws in the United States. The only way to protect yourself from companies like this is just to not work for them."

The woman lost a bid to keep her identity secret. Iowa District Judge Eliza Ovrom recently ordered two Internet companies and the U.S. Postal Service to turn over information that should identify her.

Privacy concerns "cannot shield a person from the consequences of allegedly tortious conduct," Ovrom wrote. "A person allegedly making false comments such as those involved here cannot expect to remain anonymous indefinitely."

Holliday, TNT's attorney, hopes it's the first step to erase the damage, or at least stop its spread.

"The Internet is a wonderful thing if it's used properly," he said. "But if you want to cause somebody some problems and hide, that's the way to do it. That's really not what it was intended to do."

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Mystery online attacker bedevils Des Moines company

Anonymous negative comments have effected the revenue of a Des Moines company.

Source: DesMoinesRegister

Date: 08/11/08

anonymous

des moines, Iowa

U.S.A.


10 Updates & Rebuttals

Lupe

San Antonio,
Texas,
U.S.A.
tina norris is a liar and scam artist - BEWARE!

#2Consumer Comment

Tue, March 10, 2009

HOW DO I KNOW IT'S YOU? BECAUSE YOU COPY AND PASTE THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AND ALL YOUR LITTLE WEBSITES, WELL, LIKE I SAID, YOU WANNA MESS WITH ME? BRING IT ON b***h! I'M TIRED OF YOU AND TERESA CANTANESE WITH C TAYLOR AGENCY! YOU ARE BOTH LIARS, SCAM ARTISTS AND THIEVES! WHO THE f**k DID I EVER BULLY? WHO THE f**k DID I EVER THREATEN OR HARASS? WHO WAS I EVER A NIGHTMARE TO WORK WITH? LET'S SPEAK THE TRUTH AND THE FACTS HERE, SHALL WE!! The facts are this: my wife and I were approached by C Taylor Agency and TNT Casting/management/talent whatever many different names this evil lady works under, back in October of 2006. My wife and I did several jobs for these evil women who both were very quick to take credit for giving us the work, and both were quick to ask for paperwork to bill the client. However, neither one of these evil persons wanted to take the responsibility for paying either one of us. So, out of frustration of having constantly called and emailed about my money, just to be ignored and not have any of my emails or calls returned, I posted ads on CL and Event Speak for people to beware of these evil women. ONLY then were my emails replied to. This evil person Tina Norris claims to be so honest and reputalbe, but she constantly ignored my emails, hiding behind her assistant, at the time. Only when I posted the TRUTH about her trying to cheat us out of our money, did she email me about my check. We did the work in October, we were send paperwork that needed to be filled out IN JANUARY, before we were to be paid. My wife was paid maybe three months later. I HAVE YET TO RECEIVE ANY PAYMENT FOR ANY WORK I DID FOR THESE EVIL WOMEN. Now, Tina Norris with TNT Mgmt, and Teresa Cantanese with C Taylor Agency, who is the real criminal here? I never lied about any of the lies and scams pulled, and tried to pull, with me and my wife. You are both liars, scam artists, crooks, evil, and very bad women and should be stopped. I posted this and everything else I have ever posted about you evil women so that people would beware and stay very far away from you. Anyone who has anything to do with either one of you runs the risk of being victimized by your lies, scams, and evil-doing. Come on, Tina, I still have every single email you ever sent me, especially the ones stating that if I didn't stop asking for my money that I so rightly deserved that you would sue my and garnish my wages for life. I am not scared of either one of you, because I have God and all that is GOOD on MY side. I will not bow down to your threats and be like all the other wimps who recanted what they said, which was the TRUTH, just because they wanted to get paid. NO! You need to be stopped, and the people deserve to know the TRUTH!!


Alias- Big John

Des Moines,
Iowa,
U.S.A.
Support for Ireana

#3Author of original report

Sat, March 07, 2009

boy irena, tnt//tina norris is one to go around posting on boards trying to rally others to get ror, complaintsboard, jobvent shut down. when she is the one that is taking of advantage of every site to personally attack or post on her former staff that speak of their experience or opinion of her and her company. its weird that someone would contact your former clients to see how you smell? and she talks about you as if she knows you. thats weird for any company to post what she wrote and claim to be a professional with credits. she talks about you not having money as well, how would she know that unless she was stalking you. she admitted to contacting your clients but why would she need to contact your clients? that is vindictive and WEIRD of her to do that.


Lupe

San Antonio,
Texas,
U.S.A.
I THINK THAT TINA NEEDS TO QUIT WATCHING COURT SHOWS

#4Consumer Comment

Sat, March 07, 2009

YOU OBVIOUSLY LOOK UP STUFF IN THE DICTIONARY AND GET STUFF YOU SEE OFF LAWYER SHOWS BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HALF THE TIME, YOU ACCUSED ME OF SLANDERING YOUR FAKE, LYING, SCAMMING COMPANY, BUT YET, EVERYTHING I EVER WROTE WAS VERY TRUE AND VERY FACTUAL, YOU SCAM PEOPLE TO RETRACT THEIR COMMENTS JUST SO THEY CAN GET PAID, JUST AS YOU TRIED TO WITH ME AND MY WIFE, HOWEVER YOU DON'T SCARE ME WHICH IS WHY I NEVER RECANTED ANYTHING I EVER WROTE, WHY SHOULD I? IT WAS ALL TRUE, LIKE I CONTINUE TO WRITE, YOU CHEATED ME AND NEVER PAID ME, PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW WHAT A LIAR AND SCAM ARTIST YOU ARE AND NOT WORK FOR YOU, WE NEED TO PUT AND END TO YOU, EVIL WOMAN


Irena Murphy

Panorama City,
California,
U.S.A.
Tina Norris is writting false and slanderous reports against talent. TNT Management , Moines Iowa

#5REBUTTAL Individual responds

Wed, February 25, 2009

This is the second response I've had to post because of this company! I never worked for TNT, I had a bad experience with them over 7 months ago where I almost did a modeling promotion through them but never did because of lack of instruction and complications. They threatened me by saying they were going to fine me and call the police etc. I offered to send the boxes back COD and they refused. I then threw away the boxes which contained some coupons an apron and some plastic cups and washed my hands of every dealing with company again. The owner of this company has been writting slanderous reports about me ever since! For seven months. Note that I do not know this woman and have never even talked to her. I live in a completely different state. The only way she's know anything about me is by stalking me online. She's written slanderous reports from stating that I'm not licensed as a hairstylist to accusations of sexual favors and cyber bullying. I actually am licensed in colorado and california and the sexual comments and cyber bullying is a complete joke on her behalf. I never contacted the company after the day or two incident. I dont know their contact info. I have not called them or emailed them. I have never written anything about them on ripoff report except to rebuttal their false claims. I am seeking the council of a lawyer. I'm sure I do not even need to depend myself as the claims against me are ridiculous and childish. Once again...IF ANYONE HAS HAD PROBLEMS WITH TNT MANAGEMENT AND TINA NORRIS FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME. Irena Murphy 720-771-7885 [email protected]


John Doe

New York,
New York,
U.S.A.
Irene- You need to contact a lawyer!

#6Author of original report

Wed, February 18, 2009

Irene, This is clearly retaliation from Tina Norris for speaking about Tnt Management and your experience with her company. Depending on the type of contract you signed/or did not (which Tina clealy states you were hired to do the job) you do have legal grounds for retaliation lawsuit . Regardless of the contract whether you signed or not. You have the law by your side too. TNT, Tina Norris also has to abide by the rules/regulations set forth by each state. Building a Case of Retaliation If you suspect retaliation,you will need to show a link between your complaint (or other behavior that you believe triggered the retaliation), and the employer's retaliatory behavior. The more evidence you have in support of your claim, the better.(contact others she clearly threatens with lawsuits for their opinions or experience with her company, there are others out there from other postings) To do this, document the allegedly retaliatory behavior.(such as all these postings she has posted on you and her rebuttals) Also, keep track of historical information prior to when you made your complaint. To learn more about retaliation and what you can do to fight it, get Your Rights in the Workplace whether a Independent contractor or direct hire. I am not giving legal advice, but I would consult a lawyer immediately.


John Doe

New York,
New York,
U.S.A.
Irene- You need to contact a lawyer!

#7Author of original report

Wed, February 18, 2009

Irene, This is clearly retaliation from Tina Norris for speaking about Tnt Management and your experience with her company. Depending on the type of contract you signed/or did not (which Tina clealy states you were hired to do the job) you do have legal grounds for retaliation lawsuit . Regardless of the contract whether you signed or not. You have the law by your side too. TNT, Tina Norris also has to abide by the rules/regulations set forth by each state. Building a Case of Retaliation If you suspect retaliation,you will need to show a link between your complaint (or other behavior that you believe triggered the retaliation), and the employer's retaliatory behavior. The more evidence you have in support of your claim, the better.(contact others she clearly threatens with lawsuits for their opinions or experience with her company, there are others out there from other postings) To do this, document the allegedly retaliatory behavior.(such as all these postings she has posted on you and her rebuttals) Also, keep track of historical information prior to when you made your complaint. To learn more about retaliation and what you can do to fight it, get Your Rights in the Workplace whether a Independent contractor or direct hire. I am not giving legal advice, but I would consult a lawyer immediately.


John Doe

New York,
New York,
U.S.A.
Irene- You need to contact a lawyer!

#8Author of original report

Wed, February 18, 2009

Irene, This is clearly retaliation from Tina Norris for speaking about Tnt Management and your experience with her company. Depending on the type of contract you signed/or did not (which Tina clealy states you were hired to do the job) you do have legal grounds for retaliation lawsuit . Regardless of the contract whether you signed or not. You have the law by your side too. TNT, Tina Norris also has to abide by the rules/regulations set forth by each state. Building a Case of Retaliation If you suspect retaliation,you will need to show a link between your complaint (or other behavior that you believe triggered the retaliation), and the employer's retaliatory behavior. The more evidence you have in support of your claim, the better.(contact others she clearly threatens with lawsuits for their opinions or experience with her company, there are others out there from other postings) To do this, document the allegedly retaliatory behavior.(such as all these postings she has posted on you and her rebuttals) Also, keep track of historical information prior to when you made your complaint. To learn more about retaliation and what you can do to fight it, get Your Rights in the Workplace whether a Independent contractor or direct hire. I am not giving legal advice, but I would consult a lawyer immediately.


John Doe

New York,
New York,
U.S.A.
Irene- You need to contact a lawyer!

#9Author of original report

Wed, February 18, 2009

Irene, This is clearly retaliation from Tina Norris for speaking about Tnt Management and your experience with her company. Depending on the type of contract you signed/or did not (which Tina clealy states you were hired to do the job) you do have legal grounds for retaliation lawsuit . Regardless of the contract whether you signed or not. You have the law by your side too. TNT, Tina Norris also has to abide by the rules/regulations set forth by each state. Building a Case of Retaliation If you suspect retaliation,you will need to show a link between your complaint (or other behavior that you believe triggered the retaliation), and the employer's retaliatory behavior. The more evidence you have in support of your claim, the better.(contact others she clearly threatens with lawsuits for their opinions or experience with her company, there are others out there from other postings) To do this, document the allegedly retaliatory behavior.(such as all these postings she has posted on you and her rebuttals) Also, keep track of historical information prior to when you made your complaint. To learn more about retaliation and what you can do to fight it, get Your Rights in the Workplace whether a Independent contractor or direct hire. I am not giving legal advice, but I would consult a lawyer immediately.


Tina Norris/tnt Mgmt

Des Moines,
Iowa,
U.S.A.
Vanessa AKA Irena Murphy Stalker, Cyber-Bully

#10REBUTTAL Owner of company

Mon, February 09, 2009

Irena, Your "Fact" sheet left off harrassment, cyber-stalking and cyber-bullying. You have stalked, cyber-stalked and cyber-bullied TNT MGMT, Tina Norris for 8 months. You have posted comments on Rip off, The Des Moines Register, Complaints Board and all internet venues that work against companies and business owners. Do your research and post the definition of harrassment, cyber-stalking and cyber- bullying, next - your name will appear - Vanessa - Irena Murphy.


Anonymous

San Jose,
California,
U.S.A.
Facts for all!

#11Author of original report

Sat, February 07, 2009

Here is a brief guide to libel and slander as I've come to understand them through cases I've been involved with (none of which we ever lost): Libel, Slander and Defamation Libel can be personal libel or trade libel, which is also known as "product disparagement." Product disparagement can include a product, service or entire company. Libelous statements, whether against persons or products, are published statements that are false and damaging. Slander is the same as libel in most states, but in spoken rather than written form. The terms "libel" and "slander" are often subsumed under the broader term "defamation." It is a tort (a wrongful act) to harm another's reputation by defaming them. How do you know if you might defame someone or something in what you are about to publish? There are three tests which the defamatory statement must meet in order for a plaintiff to prevail in a suit against you and your publisher: Untrue. In order to be defamatory, the statement must be untrue. If the statement is true or substantially true, then it is not defamatory, and the case is over. Damaging. In order for the plaintiff to prevail, the statement must have caused real and substantial harm to the person or business. The plaintiff must present evidence of the substantial harm done. Knowingly false. The plaintiff must also show that the defendant knew the statement was untrue, but published or broadcast the statement despite that knowledge. From this brief explanation, you can deduce that the best way to avoid a libel charge, or to defeat it, is to: Write only that which is true and can be shown to be true through your meticulous research and note taking. Keep all research for a period of years, depending on the statute of limitations that applies where you are. In sum, you can say or publish just about whatever you wish in our open society--so long as it is true. Public Official vs Public Figure The same liberal rule applies to both categories: To prevail in a libel case against you, in addition to showing that your statement is untrue and caused significant harm, a public official or a public figure must also prove "malice" -- that you acted in reckless disregard to the facts known to you and with intent to harm. Obviously, because of this stipulation, you enjoy considerable protection when it comes to public personages, since proving malice (intent to harm) places a heavy burden on the prosecution. Who are these public people? The status of "public official" is relatively easy to determine from public records. The trick comes in determining who falls into the category of "public figure." The courts have determined that there are two types of public figures: A "general purpose public figure" is someone who enjoys social prominence. Entertainers are in this category. A "limited purpose public figure" -- someone who has intentionally placed themselves into prominence, such as a vocal activist on a given issue. The reasoning is that the press has a First Amendment duty to report on such newsworthy people, and therefore published statements warrant such protection. Who is a private person? None of the above. Now you see why lawyers get the big bucks. [NOTE: This article should not be considered a legal advice. If you have a concern about whether something in your writing is libelous, please consult a lawyer before publication.]

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