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  • Report:  #463579

Complaint Review: PSI Seminars - Scottsdale Arizona

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- Gilbert, Arizona,
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PSI Seminars
Miller Avenue Scottsdale, 85038 Arizona, U.S.A.
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907-998-2223
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My wife attended PSI in Dec 08 prior to her going in we had a very loving relationship, like all relationships we had our issues, but if there was one thing never in doubt it was the love we had for each other. Pretty much day one of my wife coming out of the process she told me she didn't think we had a future together, and quoted with my new inner strength and the love I have for myself I don't feel you fit in to my future plans, I now feel we have different perspectives on life and I need to follow my own path in life and do what truly makes me happy.

We stayed together for the following 4 months (in separate bedrooms) and 1 month ago she moved out and said she cannot be in a relationship as she needs to focus on herself. The post's here screams out a lot of similarities in what my wife has been saying to me post the PSI process, excluding the recruiting of friends, and the aggressive nature of the Lifespring seminar.

Post all of this happening I have spent a lot of time studying the internet and have found a lot of negative press around these residential LGAT type programs. What I found was both interesting and scary. The PSI program seems to come from the same stable as EST, Life spring etcas Thomas Wilhite the creator of PSI originally worked with Werner Erhard as an aide promoting EST.

My view from what I have seen is this is a real slick operation that has taken a good look at all of the negative press around LGAT's, and created an incredibly slick program that minimizes negative press after their process. Ie: Landmark, PSI, and Lifespring rely on re-recruiting attendees to maximize the revenue they would generate, the PSI program maximizes their revenue in one swoop as they offer a 4 day residential program that costs $550.00. People thereafter are focused on aggressively recruiting, and because they are so hyped up from the guided visualizations and meditation sessions naturally want to promote the process to their friends as they are still on a serotonin high.

My biggest gripe with PSI (as well as losing my wife) is the fact they are not accountable to anyone, they do not truly stringently pre-screen applications, and not being medically trained are not skilled enough to know when people are not suitable for the intense training they are putting people through. I ask you how can you truly assess someone by simply reading an application form..?

My wife suffered from abuse as a child and bouts of depression; speaking to a qualified psychologist I was told my wife should not have done this process as it seems to have caused dissociation, and has caused her to disconnect from some of her emotions, hence her black and white approach towards me.

Maybe I'm being a complete idiot and maybe my wife never loved me, but I find that very hard to believe as she often called me her rock, and told me no-one has ever stood by her like I did, and gave un-conditional love and support accepting all her quirks.

John

Gilbert, Arizona

U.S.A.


2 Updates & Rebuttals

Steve

Glendale,
Arizona,
U.S.A.
Another clear example of PSI Seminars.

#2Author of original report

Thu, August 06, 2009

Ok, I found this on another site. The first post is by a PSI Grad who obviously can't spell, type or use a spell check. 4. Written by Jenny, on 03-08-2009 03:30 I attended the PSI classes and just like with religion you take what you learn nd pply it to your life as it fits, Does it have some weird things yes, but i choose to go there, and what i got from it is how to enjoy life and to live life fully, and stop letting things pass me by. you cant knock it till you try it, the guy above said his wife was madly in love with him before she went and then fell out of love with him, but maybe he shuld stop playing the victim and look at her as someone who had the guts to come out about her true feelings, just becuse she said she loved him one day doesnt mean that it was a love to last fofr a lifetime, she has that right to feel that hes not going to fit into her life anymore, thats her right with or without the prgram. they dont mke clims or reports of healing, thts all what you make if you get something out of the experience than you do if you dont you dont, if yu skeptical dont WAST YOUR MONEY! now whose fault is that, if you choose not to get anything out of the program and your still skeptical YOURS you paid the frikin money deal with it. who are you gunna sue for malpractice you? This on is from Barbara: WHY TO GO Barbara!!!!!!!!! 3. Written by Barbara, on 03-08-2009 18:05 Oh my, Jenny you attended the PSI Classes and this is the best you can do? Are you blaming this man because his wife left him after attending PSI seminars? I bet you're one of those people who attended and decided life wasn't what you expected and you left your husband for this sh*t. Are you the one who stopped playing the victim and believes you had the guts to leave? As for her right to leave; you are correct; she did have the right to leave, but what about explaining that to the man she married. What about her responsibility and commitment to her marriage? Where was her responsibility to her family? Did PSI teach you that you have no responsibility towards one another other than yourselves? PSI claims they teach you the tools to get through life? Did you take take what you needed and leave the rest behind? I have seen this written by more that one alumni of the P*SS and SH*T Institute. And if you post here again please use the spell checker, you're sentence structure *** OR IS THAT JUST THE PART OF YOUR BRAIN YOU LEFT AT THE RANCH? Hahaha!!!!!


Laserdanger

Huntington Beach,
California,
U.S.A.
all a matter of perception

#3Consumer Comment

Tue, June 30, 2009

It is my opinion that participants should be screened properly. These programs are designed to stir up old repressed memories. They are doing things that I believe only a psychologist should be doing. Old memories are inherently inaccurate, and in this environment it could intensify what in reality was really nothing. It is my opinion that creating these great big emotions will lead some to buy into their more expensive programs. For example when buying a car they always say don't get attached. Emotions can lead us to do really dumb things. Well guess what they are creating a hell of a lot of emotions, and asking you to buy in on the spot. Again for some that is fine, but I find that ethically questionable. also I believe it is great that they push psi grads to be more. self talk and limiting beliefs are learned. For example believing one has low self worth. it is learned, and pushing the grad to pursue further education or some other pursuit is great. But not all grads have a clear idea of what is attainable. this is something they mention but I still believe that some don't get it and do crazy things. For example buying a car or house they cannot afford. I walked away with the acceptance that this course is all a matter of perception. Every single PSI grad will walk out with a different experience. this is the nature of the human mind, there is no way to change this. In my class I did not get the impression that this course would cause one to leave a significant other. quite the opposite in my experience. It is very plausible that your wife simply did not get it, or warped their teachings to suit some other motive. If anything they teach to bury the hatchet ditch your ego and repair relationships. I do not want to come off as a PSi zombie but you did not post from your side of things. only that she did this, or she did that. There could be a blind spot that you are unaware of.

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