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Complaint Review: Invention Submission Corporation - Irvine California
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Invention Submission Corporation
217 Ninth Ave, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, 15222-3506, U.S.A. Irvine, California, U.S.A.
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Invention Submission Corporation ICS got me for $5000+, And counting. I am not one of the lucky ones. Irvine California
In late 2003 I took an idea to ISC. They did research for me, it cost $1000 to start. After they explained that it was an exciting idea that has never been done and that I would qualify for a utility patent. I wrote the checks to start process. They explained that it would cost me $12,095.00 for the patent and to present this to market, however, I would make much more which would pay for the remaining balance. I signed up for a loan which I am still paying today to keep my credit rating from sinking into the ground.
I was told it could take a few years to see any results, and to be patient. By year two I had paid over $5,000.00 to ISC itself. In return I received a cheesy, impossible to setup demo disk. (Unless you are a computer programmer which I am). Once I setup the software it was nothing like the sample shown at the original meeting. The Sophisticated foreign voice was a choppy computer audio generation by a text reader program. The smooth moving multilayer diagram spec animation was not created in a format which prototype engineers could work with. (Back to square one $1$,$$$) And yes I even received a cheesy two page invention pamphlet and a book with market studies on the market opening for my invention.
An invention for laptop users everywhere A multimillion dollar invention. Pre-patent in early 2006 I receive notice that they were going to show my invention on the east coast (could not see that no money to travel; paying them). Later in 2006, I saw a cheep imitation of my invention on the internet (Someone is getting rich off my Idea ant me). I paid a third party lawyer ISC provided back in 2004, $800+ additional dollars to get the patent. Which they did not. I signed all legal papers they sent to me, poorly written. I called them repeatedly to see if they needed any information, they never called me (on my business cell phone or home phone) unless they needed money.
My first attempt for patent did not go through due to lack of specifics on the legal jargon. I called and asked if they needed any additional information. They said that they had sufficient information to proceed. The next letter I got from them was a three line letter just saying your request for US patent had not gone though. You will not receive a paten. During 3 of 4 years with ISC I have been getting letters from subsidiary companies as well as dealing with third parties. I received a call from another subsidiary who handled product / investor relations. I called the subsidiary back. He said that he had received a call from an investor with big pockets connected with Philip Morris and some big name infomercials but he was requesting a working prototype in order to proceed.
The Package delivered to market (500+investors) to get investors to lease the rights to produce my invention does not do its job. I asked the subsidiary representative, if they could produce a working prototype for this investor. He said they could not but recommended that I find a fabrication engineer in my area to build a prototype for me. I went to a legal documentation website and downloaded a confidentiality statement for under $60. I then found a fabrication company down the street from my house. Had him sign the agreement and passed him the presentation package I received from ISC subsidiaries. He looked at the diagrams and the specs and stated that he would need to redraw the entire thing because they did not add real world measurements and did not provide an auto-cad file which is what these prototype fabrication companies use.
I thought he may have been pulling my leg so I went to two other professional companies in Brea and Irvine. Same story, back to square one redraw specs because of lack of auto-cad and measurements. In each case the estimated build would be over $11,000 for a first time prototype with Research and Development (A lot less money when mass produced). I could have skipped ISC and went to the fabricator after getting the legal documents my self for $60. Wish I knew that 4 years ago I could have been rich by now, instead of deep in debt, and living paycheck to paycheck, with someone else making money from my invention.
Paying on an invention loan for no work performed, just so I dont sink deeper in debt. Thank You ISC!!! You have really made a difference in both my life and my childrens lives. (We are living one paycheck away from moving into a cardboard box). Davids_being_screwed Long Beach, California
U.S.A.
4 Updates & Rebuttals
John
Califon,New Jersey,
U.S.A.
This is what you MUST do......
#2Consumer Comment
Wed, October 10, 2007
What you MUST do-it is IMPERATIVE: Contact Jennifer Kelley in the PA Attorney General's Office with a complaint. Make sure you reference them as 'formerly Invention Submission Corp.' This is imperative! Here is the complaint form to fill out and address to Ms. Kelley: attorneygeneral.gov/bcp_form.cfm Jennifer Kelley-Agent Office of Attorney General 564 Forbes Ave. 6th Floor, Manor Bldg. Pittsburgh, Pa. 15219 Also send a copy here: Office of Attorney General Bureau of Consumer Protection 14th Floor, Strawberry Square Harrisburg, PA 17120 As well as to your Attorney General. They can be found here: naag.org/ag/full_ag_table.php Also file a complaint with the United States Patent and Trademark Office-copy and paste the below address and scroll down to 'complaints' and them 'complaint forms' uspto.gov/web/offices/com/iip/index.htm Also with the FTC: rn.ftc.gov/pls/dod/wsolcq$.startup?Z_ORG_CODE=PU01 Also with consumer affairs online: consumeraffairs.com/php/a_report.php Complaints about them as Invention Submission Corp. can be found. Also read what a former employee says about the way they operate. Make sure you reference this in your complaint in association with Invention Submission Do not let them bully you into a partial refund. They tried the excuse that 'it's been 10 years' with me-as well as a gag order. I want the full refund as required by the FTC-94 ruling. This is the minimum I will accept to even think about not talking about this scam. I have the list of alleged 'companies' from their highly touted 'databank' that had NOTHING to do with what I was trying to market-much less that I needed foreign patents and was told I didn't-a violation of FTC-94. I don't care how long it's been. All this scam information and rulings have not been available for 10 years so who cares. I, myself, didn't get internet access until 1999 and was a real rookie then as to how to search and access information. I am quite a bit better now and they will pay-either me by way of a full refund or in loss of revenue which I know has already exceeded what they could/should have refunded me. Keep us updated. We must keep these slugs in the public eye to save others from the same fate. sorry, allowing you to give a competitors name would instigate others to just file against their competition, to only come back later to suggest their company your comments on this policy are welcome! CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.
John
Califon,New Jersey,
U.S.A.
This is what you MUST do......
#3Consumer Comment
Wed, October 10, 2007
What you MUST do-it is IMPERATIVE: Contact Jennifer Kelley in the PA Attorney General's Office with a complaint. Make sure you reference them as 'formerly Invention Submission Corp.' This is imperative! Here is the complaint form to fill out and address to Ms. Kelley: attorneygeneral.gov/bcp_form.cfm Jennifer Kelley-Agent Office of Attorney General 564 Forbes Ave. 6th Floor, Manor Bldg. Pittsburgh, Pa. 15219 Also send a copy here: Office of Attorney General Bureau of Consumer Protection 14th Floor, Strawberry Square Harrisburg, PA 17120 As well as to your Attorney General. They can be found here: naag.org/ag/full_ag_table.php Also file a complaint with the United States Patent and Trademark Office-copy and paste the below address and scroll down to 'complaints' and them 'complaint forms' uspto.gov/web/offices/com/iip/index.htm Also with the FTC: rn.ftc.gov/pls/dod/wsolcq$.startup?Z_ORG_CODE=PU01 Also with consumer affairs online: consumeraffairs.com/php/a_report.php Complaints about them as Invention Submission Corp. can be found. Also read what a former employee says about the way they operate. Make sure you reference this in your complaint in association with Invention Submission Do not let them bully you into a partial refund. They tried the excuse that 'it's been 10 years' with me-as well as a gag order. I want the full refund as required by the FTC-94 ruling. This is the minimum I will accept to even think about not talking about this scam. I have the list of alleged 'companies' from their highly touted 'databank' that had NOTHING to do with what I was trying to market-much less that I needed foreign patents and was told I didn't-a violation of FTC-94. I don't care how long it's been. All this scam information and rulings have not been available for 10 years so who cares. I, myself, didn't get internet access until 1999 and was a real rookie then as to how to search and access information. I am quite a bit better now and they will pay-either me by way of a full refund or in loss of revenue which I know has already exceeded what they could/should have refunded me. Keep us updated. We must keep these slugs in the public eye to save others from the same fate. sorry, allowing you to give a competitors name would instigate others to just file against their competition, to only come back later to suggest their company your comments on this policy are welcome! CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.
John
Califon,New Jersey,
U.S.A.
This is what you MUST do......
#4Consumer Comment
Wed, October 10, 2007
What you MUST do-it is IMPERATIVE: Contact Jennifer Kelley in the PA Attorney General's Office with a complaint. Make sure you reference them as 'formerly Invention Submission Corp.' This is imperative! Here is the complaint form to fill out and address to Ms. Kelley: attorneygeneral.gov/bcp_form.cfm Jennifer Kelley-Agent Office of Attorney General 564 Forbes Ave. 6th Floor, Manor Bldg. Pittsburgh, Pa. 15219 Also send a copy here: Office of Attorney General Bureau of Consumer Protection 14th Floor, Strawberry Square Harrisburg, PA 17120 As well as to your Attorney General. They can be found here: naag.org/ag/full_ag_table.php Also file a complaint with the United States Patent and Trademark Office-copy and paste the below address and scroll down to 'complaints' and them 'complaint forms' uspto.gov/web/offices/com/iip/index.htm Also with the FTC: rn.ftc.gov/pls/dod/wsolcq$.startup?Z_ORG_CODE=PU01 Also with consumer affairs online: consumeraffairs.com/php/a_report.php Complaints about them as Invention Submission Corp. can be found. Also read what a former employee says about the way they operate. Make sure you reference this in your complaint in association with Invention Submission Do not let them bully you into a partial refund. They tried the excuse that 'it's been 10 years' with me-as well as a gag order. I want the full refund as required by the FTC-94 ruling. This is the minimum I will accept to even think about not talking about this scam. I have the list of alleged 'companies' from their highly touted 'databank' that had NOTHING to do with what I was trying to market-much less that I needed foreign patents and was told I didn't-a violation of FTC-94. I don't care how long it's been. All this scam information and rulings have not been available for 10 years so who cares. I, myself, didn't get internet access until 1999 and was a real rookie then as to how to search and access information. I am quite a bit better now and they will pay-either me by way of a full refund or in loss of revenue which I know has already exceeded what they could/should have refunded me. Keep us updated. We must keep these slugs in the public eye to save others from the same fate. sorry, allowing you to give a competitors name would instigate others to just file against their competition, to only come back later to suggest their company your comments on this policy are welcome! CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.
John
Califon,New Jersey,
U.S.A.
What you MUST do - Do not let them bully you into a partial refund.
#5Consumer Comment
Tue, October 09, 2007
What you MUST do-it is IMPERATIVE: Contact Jennifer Kelley in the PA Attorney General's Office with a complaint. Make sure you reference them as 'formerly Invention Submission Corp.' This is imperative! They need nnumerous complaints in order to do an investigation. Here is the complaint form to fill out and address to Ms. Kelley: attorneygeneral.gov/bcp_form.cfm Jennifer Kelley-Agent Office of Attorney General 564 Forbes Ave. 6th Floor, Manor Bldg. Pittsburgh, Pa. 15219 Also send a copy here: Office of Attorney General Bureau of Consumer Protection 14th Floor, Strawberry Square Harrisburg, PA 17120 As well as to your Attorney General. They can be found here: naag.org/ag/full_ag_table.php Also file a complaint with the United States Patent and Trademark Office-copy and paste the below address and scroll down to 'complaints' and them 'complaint forms' uspto.gov/web/offices/com/iip/index.htm Also with the FTC: rn.ftc.gov/pls/dod/wsolcq$.startup?Z_ORG_CODE=PU01 Also with consumer affairs online: consumeraffairs.com/php/a_report.php also, send a complaint with copies of your paperwork-certified, return receipt requested to: Mary Beth Buchanon 700 Grant St. Suite 400 Pittsburgh, Pa. 15219 and: Eastern Central Region Federal Trade Commission Suite 200 11 Superior Ave. Cleveland, Ohio 44114-2507 Complaints about them as Invention Submission Corp. can be found. Also read what a former employee says about the way they operate. Make sure you reference this in your complaint in association with Invention Submission Do not let them bully you into a partial refund. They tried the excuse that 'it's been 10 years' with me-as well as a gag order. I want the full refund as required by the FTC-94 ruling. This is the minimum I will accept to even think about not talking about this scam. I have the list of alleged 'companies' from their highly touted 'databank' that had NOTHING to do with what I was trying to market-much less that I needed foreign patents and was told I didn't-a violation of FTC-94. I don't care how long it's been. All this scam information and rulings have not been available for 10 years so who cares. I, myself, didn't get internet access until 1999 and was a real rookie then as to how to search and access information. I am quite a bit better now and they will pay-either me by way of a full refund or in loss of revenue which I know has already exceeded what they could/should have refunded me. Keep us updated. We must keep these slugs in the public eye to save others from the same fate.
