Charlene
Vienna,#2Consumer Comment
Sun, October 10, 2004
The answer is "yes" according to countless Toyota owners who have been involved in the Toyota engine oil sludge debacle! Toyota dealerships are getting quite the reputation for lying to the "valued customers." I think this is ironic given the fact that some Toyota executives are bragging that Toyota's customers are SATISFIED with everything it does! WHERE are these guys getting such data? Are they tampering with or controlling the data to manipulate the truth? One has to wonder, doesn't one? If I were you, I would RUN from Toyota, not walk! I have to tell you that after communicating with hundreds of Toyota owners over the past four years, the word is that Toyota will NOT stand behind its vehicles when problems surface. If you can't even get Toyota to stand behind the vehicle now, imagine what you might find after the fact?!? As I read, I am seeing a trend regarding sales practices at Toyota dealerships. I saw a major trend in the way that Toyota was handling its own ENGINE OIL SLUDGE issue, too. A little research may reveal a nationwide problem....I really don't know. My personal assessment is that Toyota is telling the public one thing, while it is doing quite another. This seems to be true before, during, and after the sale of its vehicles. Isn't it time that Toyota owners rally together to STOP THE INJUSTICE? "Toyota Owners Unite for Resolution" is doing just that. One way we are doing this is by posting our stories here. Toyota can do whatever it wants to. In return, it should expect to hear from the would-be and current owners of its vehicles! The "Privacy Act" is no longer a reason for owner for owner anonymity. We can link online to share stories and warn others. We can link to impact CHANGE in the auto marketplace.
Erin
Tucson,#3Consumer Comment
Thu, September 09, 2004
Thanks for the support! Precision still isn't giving up! They have harrassed us for the past few days saying everything is fine and then saying we HAVE to sign a new contract. We told the finance guy that we wanted to review the contract before signing it, but he would not fax us a copy of it, we had to look at it at the dealership. My husband went down there yesterday and low and behold they had raised our payments!! They said since time has gone by that the residual has increased??? of course my husband was fuming! He said we know about their recent legal troubles and we will contact the Attorney General as well as an attorney for ourselves. The manager came into the office and told my husband he HAD to sign the contract. My husband said we want our car back and we are giving them the new car back; we are fed up! The manager said they didn't have our car, and my husband replied, "I guess you are @*&@'d" The manager got really upset and tore up the new contract and stormed out of the office!! Our only problem now is our new car is still not registered. They haven't sent anything in-we still have temporary plates. I have a feeling this isn't over yet... Right now I just want to get rid of this car and not have any ties to Precision Toyota at all!! However, since they don't have my car it would look like we were the ones backing out of the contract. I would still like to take legal action for the stress and "yo-yo'ing" this company has brought into our lives. Hopefully they will get what is coming to them!!
John
Providence,#4Consumer Comment
Wed, September 08, 2004
In the industry, this scam is known as the "Yo-Yo." The dealer gets the consumer in a car then calls them back later and says there was a problem. They typically ask the consumer to come up with a larger down payment, agree to a higher interest rate, or agree to longer finance terms. They also commonly tell the consumer that their trade in is gone. Many consumers, believing their credit is not good enough to negotiate, or just not wanting to go through the hassle of shopping for a car again, agree to the worse terms. I have successfully sued a car dealer here in Rhode Island for perpetrating such a fraud against one of my clients. I suggest the consumer hold onto the car and consult a lawyer. There are lawyers who handle these types of claims - there is even a conference later this month about litigating auto fraud cases.
Lee
Glendale,#5Consumer Comment
Wed, September 08, 2004
Terry Goddard, Az Attorney General, is going after this company and has filed charges against them for using bait and switch techniques. If your sale hasn't finalized get your trade-in back, Az law states they maust keep it until everything is finalized! With the current criminal actions against them you should try to get away from them anyway. Good Luck!
Elizabeth
Tucson,#6Consumer Comment
Wed, September 08, 2004
Precision Toyota here in Tucson seems pretty shady. I would keep fighting them if they try to take your car back. You have a contract...on top of that, did you watch the news tonight? Precision Toyota was sued by customers or is being sued by customers because of false advertising! Apparently they were running ads saying that they were having a sale for 50% off the MSRP of all new vehicles. Then when customers came in, they told them it was only on leased vehicles? I don't even know how that would work! Maybe you should mention their current legal woes the next time you talk with someone and mention how they probably don't want anymore legal troubles. Plus you have a major sympathy factor here...your pregnant wife! With what is going on, I'm sure some news channel would love to pick up the story of the victimization of a 7 month pregnant woman. Good luck! and well wishes for the birth of your child.