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  • Report:  #373010

Complaint Review: WOMEN ARE DREAMERS TOO WADT

WOMEN ARE DREAMERS TOO , WADT NON-PROFIT SCAM Norcross Georgia

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    Atlanta Georgia
  • Submitted:
    Mon, September 15, 2008
  • Updated:
    Thu, October 09, 2008
  • WOMEN ARE DREAMERS TOO ,WADT
    4005 Wetherburn Way Suite F
    Norcross, Georgia
    U.S.A.
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Dr. Cindy Williams advertises Womens are Dreams Too (wadt) as a Fulton Micro Enterprise Council 501 (c) 3 charitable organization, helping victims of Domestic Violence transcend poverty through micro-enterprise training. This training consists of a 3- to 4-month course in which she states she will train each individual to run their business successfully without the need of getting a loan.

At orientation Dr. Cindy stated Class starts March 21st; classes are from 11:00am 2:30pm. We will use three books. Friday classes go those 12 weeks. The Saturday classes we do our logo, teach about anti-viruses. Saturday classes will also be address money cost-efficient. Friday she will teach us how to set up our business. SPA is going to come in and talk to us. City of Atlanta is going to talk to us about local government processes. At the end of class Dr. Williams will have Bank of America come in and open up an account for our business. Use Dr. Williams to get Verizon contract and for General Motors increment. Friday book you have to pay for. Dr. Cindy Williams stated numerous times that she only want to reserve her program for the "black cultural".

Now in the beginning of the "semester" it was about 12 of us. Dr. Williams told us we had to pay 150.00 for our Saturday book and 50.00 for our Friday book. These books basically had information about running a successful business. They were also photocopied from other publicized books. So basically we paid for photocopies. Also we were responsible for contributing to our own lunches every time we went to class. One thing that puzzles me was how adamant she was on getting us to pay for our books and lunches and especially when there were people who had explained to her that they couldn't afford it, she still demanded the money.

A student asked Dr. Williams what does the money from our books pay for and she stated it paid for her developing our websites. She also stated she will be a web developer and she will do our web hosting.

One of the students said she will not buy a book because she will use a pervious student's book. Dr. Williams got mad and said she will not do her website, that student left and never returned.

By the end of the 4 months it was only 8 students left. There was one student who actually joined the organization late because he was promised by Dr. Cindy Williams that she will do his business plan. However, when he went through the entire class he came out without a business plan.

At one point, one of the students saw the repo man come in and after that, Dr. Williams started locking the doors.

On the last Friday's class Dr. Williams stated all of the things we will have when we graduate. Our guest speaker will be Diane Marshall with Waffle House and Juliana Sparks with AllState Insurance. We usually give out special awards given out the GM Controller and Verizon Wireless, Sheryl Shuttleway. We're going to invite all of the Senate in the State of Georgia. We will always be speaking to our Congressmen Lewis and other congressmen. We will invite to Shirley Franklin, Lisa Boarders, Atlanta Public Schools, the Chamber, and Charles Bannister for Gwinnett County. Normally during graduation, they call your name, your website will be up, and your sellifilo will be ready. They will have our business cards, brochure, sellifilo, and website ready. We will have a band, belly dancers, food, and of course fun!!! You must dress very formal. Dr. Cindy Williams takes pride in her work for our web sites which is why she is usually hurt when someone doesn't renew their web hosting.

At graduation we did not have our websites, sellifilo, business plans, business cards, belly dancers, state representatives, our mayor, Allstate representative or WaffleHouse representative. Not even the board for our organization showed up.

After graduation I and two other students were consistently emailing the individuals Dr. Williams said would be responsible for doing our brochures, business cards, sellifilo, and website. Then Dr. Williams wanted everyone to back off because they were "resting". Since we "graduated" Dr. Williams has lied to us about everything.

She said Renee Terrell was going to charge us $250 for a sellifilo even though during class she said we'll get that for free.
She said she along with Eddie and Walter Lee will build our website but then she emailed me today yelling at me about how it was my responsibility and not hers.
She told us to pay $120.00 (and other people $130.00) to do our web hosting for a year through EarthLink. But she lied because I called EarthLink and they said our websites were inactive which means she is using her own personal server and charging us. Now, we can't move our websites to another server because she refuses to give us her password for her EarthLink account.
She shuts our website down whenever she gets mad at us.

I think she should be analyzed because she is using charitable money for her own personal gain. We were promised something and didn't get it and now she wants us to pay her to get it. That is a scam! She advertises that she is a non-for-profit company giving back to her community but she wouldn't let any other race participate in the classes. She has repeated spoke negatively of races other than African-American. And she also teaches us to copy other people creativity and make it own. Like she told us to go on three people's websites and copy what they are doing. She said just change the words around a little bit so that we don't get in trouble.

I seriously recommend the State of Georgia look into her program because she is stealing money and telling a lot of lies. She said she helps batter women but I have yet to hear of or see a battery woman she has helped through her program.

Anonymous
Atlanta, Georgia
U.S.A.

2 Updates & Rebuttals


Candy Hubbert

Atlanta,
Georgia,
U.S.A.

Rebutting this lies

#3Consumer Comment

Thu, October 09, 2008

I dd attend this wonderful program.
My experience was awesome
It was the best 3 month investment I could have given myself to improve my life.

P.S
I was in the same class w/this crazy woman, who is a scam artist, a degenerate, a liar and a freebie queen who was trying to rip us all off in class.

She was never present in class, always calling all of us at home to catch up. Too busy to do her class work, always blaming the teacher, always trying to get all of us in class to say bad 'stuff' about the teacher.

We all got a lot off free items, our only responsibility was to buy our books which we actually ended up getting for free because the free services and products we received outweighed the amount of little money we paid for our books.

This woman was sitting directly beside me in the class, always a drama queen.

This is an awesome organization that instilled in all of us hardwork and dedication.

I was referred by a cuaucasian lady who graduated from the class

I wish ripoff w/not allow this degenerates who rip off non profits post their crap here.

They go around prowling and scamming non profits when they don't get their way they complain.

NO one owes you anything.
I had fun in this class, we did not pay a dime, yet we received knowledge, free for 4 months, clothes, free food. If you couldn't pay your little $2.50 Women Are Dreamers gave lunch anyway,.
Our Professor was a very giving lady with an awesome giving spirit.

Well, Chanda, you need to get a life. Our teacher taught us all how to become successful, you need to stop your bad, ungrateful, lying and deceitful ways.

Stop ripping non-profits off. I know all your friends that you spoke to me about and they have told me plenty about you.

Get help since you are suffering from battered women syndrom.
Get help before it's too , stop abusing poor non profits in Georgia

Thanks Women Are Dreamers for all the free education you gave me.
Thanks to all the volunteers

My grand children are very grateful and my entire family


Candy Hubbert

Atlanta,
Georgia,
U.S.A.

The writer of this rip off was my classmate but I had a great experience in the class and she lied about her comments

#3Consumer Comment

Wed, October 08, 2008

The writer of this rip-off is a liar as I was her classmate.
I know she wrote this because she was not at graduation, always absent from class. She did not know what transpired during graduation as such she lied on all accounts.

This lady was never in class, she used to sit near me in class. She was never there to learn. It seems like she came to class for a handout, which she received tons of it.

We paid for our books and received our books which was worth more than we paid. We paid for our lunch $5.00 for lunch which did not cover our lunch as Women Are Dreamers was always susbisidizing our lunch.

We received the following items from Women Are dreamers Too.
I received free clothing brnd new ones worth about $3500.00 for free, I received Sams, we all received Sams club card a $40.00 value free of charge, we received our counsling book $15.00 for free, we received a tuition free class worth $7500.00 that we did not pay for, we received free training for 12 weeks, we received a nice graduation ceremony free, a lot of folks came to graduation which was a fun event with all the Guest speakers. The writer did not know who was at graduation because she was never there.

The writer a classmate of mine did not even show up to receive her diploma,. Her entire family received free food, free toys, her 19 year old daughter received clothing worth $15, 000 for free a lot of clothing becaues she said she wanted her daughter to dress as a girl.

The writers two boys and her family received free toys, clothes and food.

We all did not pay a dime for all trhe 'stuff' we recieved.

The writer claimed that this was a scam, i would like to ask her how much she paid for ll she received.

The writer it seems is a free loader, a freebie welfare queen who is an ingrate, it seems to me that shwee gives folks a bad wrap because of her freebie welfare foodstamp thrash behavior.

I am one of those you said dropped out of the class but waht you do not realize is unlike you I finished my studies, attended graduation, and will be forever grateful to this fine Organization for lending a helping hand.

I am indeed an abused victim and I am aware of your husband drama as you also are an abused victim, but unlike you I am a survivor and I take responsibility for my actions and unlike you I am a survivor.

You need to wake up and stop blaming others.


I cannot believethat you suddenly became an ingrate and blame this wonderful organization for all your troubles.

You DID not pay a dime for all that you received from this Organiztion, there was no scam. In fact YOU CHANDA ARE THE scam artist.

Leave Doc alone, you are an ingrate

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