Dallas College Richland Campus Music Advisors Derrick Logozzo & Melissa Logan are advising students into exhausting their financial aid and having to pay out of state tuition at their own Universties with dozens of hours of music nonsense that does not apply to anythig and that will not transfer. Dallas Texas
Derrick Logozzo and Melissa Logan are the Music Advisors for Dallas College Richland Campus. They refuse to follow the college's published degree plans / Guided Pathways. They openly flout the administration and DCCCD board that mandate that the advisors adhere to these degree plans and Guided Pathways. An Associate's Degree from a two-year college such as this is only 60 credit hours. A maximum of 66 will transfer, but all attempted hours count toward financial aid and in-state tuition limits.
At 150 credit hours (a degree plus 30 hours) students will not longer be eligible for in-state tuition. For the excess hours above 150 the students will be charged out of state tuition (which financial aid does not cover.) Regardless of whether financial aid was applied for or awarded, every hour counts toward the limit of 180 credit hours (150% of a degree that is 120 credit hours.)
These predatory advsiors try to make every student into a music major or drown them in music credits that apply to nothing and will not transfer. Students will end up with ridiculous numbers of hours (100-161.) Many students are way over hours and never get their Associate's Degree (60 credit hours) as Derrick Logozzo and Melissa Logan are not putting students into the core classes that they must have and that would apply all degrees.
These dishonest advisors tell students that they do not need to worry about financial aid or out of state tuition. They are ending most of their students college careers before they even earn an Associate's Degree. With out of state tuition and no financial aid looming these students cannot finish any degree or training for gainful employment.
Many of the students they lure into the department don't have the requisite skills or background in music to succeed. They place students into Fundamentals of Theory, Audiation Ensembles, Voice Classes and numerous other hours that are not college level, transferable or on any degree plan to keep students trapped in the program for 3 or more years. They are filling their own music class chairs to get $$$$$ into the department with no regard for whether the student can succeed in the program and transfer or get into gainful employment. There are few good paying jobs in music and students may need Bachelor's, Master's or Doctorates to get them.
Students are also fraudulently lured in to study Music Production, Recording Technology, Conducting and numerous other things that the college doesn't offer the classes for or that is a Junior or Senior level course that a two-year college such as this cannot offer.
Melissa Logan has her students singing loudly in the halls and playing vidoe games on TVs the students bring in the music building (that is filled with numerous other professors tryinig to work in their offices and teach classes.) Melissa Logan keeps score of her students card games in the hall and puts silly videos and pictures of the antics in the building up on the college's social media pages. Melissa Logan runs her classes like a kindergarten and keeps star charts on the wall outside her office. She also removes comments and reviews from the college's social media pages. The taxpayers have every right to comment on what she as a government employee for a government entity is doing with our tax dollars.
Derrick Logozzo has students that miss half or more of the classes / rehearsals and skip performances. That would result in a failing grade and being removed from the program at a real music school, but Logozzo gives these students As & Bs and retains them in the program semester after semester to fill chairs.
Logozzo and Logan both bring in students with virtually no music background and that can't read music and make them music majors even though the program is accredited and NASM dictates, "as a matter of sound educational practice, institutions recruit and admit students only to programs or curricula for which they show aptitudes and prospects for success. 71 NASM Handbook 2018-19II.H., I. The institution shall inform a student promptly if it is determined that he or she is not acceptable as a candidate for a degree, certificate, or diploma," Many of the students would not be accepted into a real music school and thus shouldn't have been placed in the program at Richland. All students on campus should feel welcome to take a 1 credit ensemble class for enjoyment and personal development. But the predatory advisors should not be trying to turn everyone that walks into the door into a music major or put students in real degree programs in any additional music hours that will eat up their financial aid and in-state tuition eligible hours.
Melissa Logan and Derrick Logozzo do not discuss the harsh reality of trying to make it in the music business, nor do they tell students how incredibly comeptitive the auditions are at real music schools. Most Richland music students never transfer. Most walk out with well over 100 hours with nothing to show for it and have wasted their college hours on pure nonsense and will never get to finish a real degree. The advisors also don't tell students the incredible amount of work involved to attain the degree. 4 hours a day 6 days a week on one's principal instrument is the minimum practice time required at 4 year universities. Piano proficiency requires hours of practice a week. One must pass junior barriers on their instrument to continue in a music program at a real school. They must take the Music Theory placement test. The piano proficiency exam must be passed. Junior and Senoir recitals must be prepared. A Music degree is one of the most difficult degrees by far.
Richland College has only 11 practice rooms that are shared by 30+ adjuncts and 400-600 music enrollments. So, students cannot get near enough practice time in. The pianos are almost all broken and unsafe to use and in rooms that are not soundproofed properly, so the building is always loud and chaotic.
The music building is a party scene and suspected drug dealers hang out in the building.
Only a handful of the armies of students lured in graduate with an Associate's Degree or transfer. Of those few that transfer only a fraction complete a 4 year degree. The adjuncts are the finest available and on par with those in the universities in the state. The problem is the dirty advisors / recruiters that are harming students and their paying parents. And, let us nor forget the bloodbath the taxpayers are taking. Paying for thousands of hours that apply to nothing costs $$$$$$$$$$!
The DCCCD board is not providing proper oversight and the administration of Dallas College Richland Campus is not getting the issues resolved. The predatory advising violates students rights. Students harmed by these advisors should have their out of state tuition covered by Dallas College and these advisors should be terminated.
4 Updates & Rebuttals
Heather
Garland,Texas,
United States
DCCCD / Dallas College Not Refunding Cancelled Classes
#5Author of original report
Sat, January 23, 2021
DCCCD / Dallas College is a disorganized mess. Classes that were cancelled weeks ago still show as ongoing in Blackboard and Econnect and we students can't get refunds.
Classes that are on degree plans and / or specialized should be available if they are put on the schedule. Students aren't getting classes they need. Not to mention, students can't juggle their schedules after the semester is already in session and classes are full, nor can they change their work schedules on short notice.
Heather
Garland,Texas,
United States
Dallas College Richland Campus No Longer NASM Accredited / Advising May Violate State Law
#5Author of original report
Sat, December 19, 2020
Dallas College Richland Campus has been touting its National Association of Schools of Music (NASM) Accreditation. The program is no longer accredited for obvious reasons.
https://nasm.arts-accredit.org/directory-lists/accredited-institutions/search/?institutionname=&city=&state=&country=&search=true
Texas state law requires that colleges give students in writing the information about the 150 credit hour rule. Derrick Logozzo and Melissa Logan are the advisors that students see and they not only don't give them that crucial information, but outright lie about out of state tuition and financial aid limits as they want to fill their own music chairs.
https://codes.findlaw.com/tx/education-code/educ-sect-54-014.html
"(e) Each institution of higher education shall inform each new undergraduate student enrolling at the institution in writing of the limitation provided by this section on the number of hours or type of courses that a Texas resident is entitled to complete while paying tuition at the rate provided for Texas residents."
"Texas Education Code § 54.014 establishes a maximum number of semester credit hours an undergraduate student may attempt while paying Texas resident tuition. A student who exceeds the maximum hours will be charged the non-resident tuition rate (out of state tuition.)
Hour limitations
Attempted hours include
Double Major, Double Degree, Minors
Heather
Garland,Texas,
United States
Dallas College Website Information All Students & Parents Need
#5Author of original report
Thu, December 17, 2020
Melissa Logan and Derrick Logozzo refuse to follow the degree plan. They are flouting the mandates of the college, its board and its administrators. These predatory advisors should have been removed!
Dallas College DCCCD Website states:
Excessive Hours
Students should take care when selecting additional courses to be transferred toward a Baccalaureate degree. House Bill 1172 allows an institution to charge the equivalent of out of state tuition for credit hours taken beyond the state limits. State limits are:
For students entering public Texas institutions Fall 1999 - Summer 2006 who attempt 45 hours beyond what is required for Baccalaureate degree (120 hours). For students entering Fall 2006 and thereafter who attempt 30 hours beyond the hours required for a Baccalaureate degree. It is recommended that students take minimal hours beyond degree requirements to avoid possible higher tuition charges at the institution to which they are transferring.
This degree plan will constitute a 60-semester-credit-hour transfer block to any public Texas four-year college or university.
Courses Required for the AA Degree with a Field of Study in Music
Component Areas
and CB Codes
Courses
Semester-Credit Hours Required
Communication
(CB010)
Select EACH of the following:
ENGL 1301 (a grade of "C" or better is required)
ENGL 1302
6
Mathematics
(CB020)
Select ONE of the following:
(A grade of "C" or better is required.)
MATH 1314, 1316, 1324, 1325, 1332, 1342, 1350, 1414, 1442, 2412, 2413, 2414
3-4
Life and Physical Sciences
(CB030)
Select ONE of the following:
ANTH 2401, BIOL 1406, 1407, 1408, 1409, 1411, 2401, 2402, 2406, 2416, 2420, 2421
CHEM 1405, 1406, 1407, 1411, 1412, 2423, 2425
ENVR 1401, 1402
GEOL 1401, 1402, 1403, 1404, 1405, 1445, 1447
PHYS 1401, 1402, 1403, 1404, 1405, 1407, 1415, 1417, 2425, 2426
4
Creative Arts
(CB050)
Select the following:
MUSI 1307
3
American History
(CB060)
Select the following:
HIST 1301
and
Select ONE of the following:
HIST 1302, 2301, 2328, 2381
6
Government/Political Science
(CB070)
Select EACH of the following:
GOVT 2305, 2306
6
Component Area Option
(CB090)
Select ONE of the following options:
Option A: SPCH 1311, 1315, 1321 or SGNL 1301, 1302 and PHED 1164
OR
Option B: FOREIGN LANGUAGE - ARAB 1411, 1412; CHIN 1411, 1412; FREN 1411, 1412; GERM 1411, 1412; ITAL 1411, 1412; JAPN 1411, 1412; KORE 1411, 1412; PORT 1411, 1412; RUSS 1411, 1412; SPAN 1411, 1412
4
CORE CREDIT HOURS FOR THIS AA DEGREE
32
REQUIRED MUSIC ENSEMBLE FIELD OF STUDY COURSES
Select FOUR semester hours from the following:
MUEN 1121, 1122, 1123, 1131, 1132, 1133, 1134, 1135, 1136, 1137, 1151, 1152, 1153, 2123, 2141
(Courses may be repeated for credit.)
4
APPLIED STUDY
I. Select EIGHT (8) semester hours in the major applied area of study of the following:
MUAP 1101, 1105, 1109, 1113, 1115, 1117, 1121, 1125, 1129, 1133, 1137, 1141, 1145, 1149, 1153, 1157, 1158, 1161, 1165, 1169, 1177, 1181, 2201, 2205, 2209, 2213, 2215, 2217, 2221, 2225, 2229, 2233, 2237, 2241, 2245, 2249, 2253, 2257, 2258, 2261, 2265, 2269, 2277, 2281
(Courses may be repeated for credit.)
II. Applied/class piano
MUSI 1181, 1182, 2181, 2182; MUAP 1169, 2269, 2369
8
THEORY/AURAL SKILLS
Select EACH of the following:
MUSI 1116, 1117, 1311, 1312, 2116, 2117, 2311, 2312
16
TOTAL CREDIT HOURS REQUIRED FOR THIS AA DEGREE
60
Note: State universities are required to accept only 60 hours in transfer; therefore, it is strongly suggested that students check with their receiving university regarding the acceptance of any credit hours over the 60-credit hour maximum.
Transfer Services Information
The mission of the Transfer Services — Articulation and University Relations Office is to ensure seamless transfer of credit courses from the colleges of DCCCD to other colleges and universities. The Transfer Services Office provides information to students, academic advisors, career counselors, staff and faculty regarding articulation agreements, course transfer, academic planning and related student services through the transfer services dashboard.
Transfer Services also provides transfer guides that include courses (course numbers and course names) within our system that will transfer into degree plans at other institutions.
The Richland College Transfer Center provides transfer advising concerning course transferability as well as university programs and degrees, in an effort to make transferring to a four-year university a seamless process.
Monday & Tuesday 2 p.m. – 5 p.m.
Wednesday & Thursday 9 a.m. – 12 p.m.
Friday 2 p.m. – 5 p.m.
Walk-In Schedule
Monday & Tuesday 9 a.m. – 12 p.m.
Wednesday & Thursday 2 p.m. – 5 p.m.
Friday 9 a.m. – 12 p.m.
CONTACT
Richland College Transfer Center
El Paso Hall, E082
972-761-6785
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Heather
Garland,Texas,
United States
The Student Records Tell the Story & Out of State Tuition in Texas Will Hurt!
#5Author of original report
Thu, December 17, 2020
I have done numerous Open Records Requests. These show every credit hour each music student has taken and who registered the student for each class. Melissa Logan and Derrick Logozzo kept ripping off students long after the administration had stepped in and promised that enrollment would be monitored and degree plans / Guided Pathways would followed. An Associate's Degree is 60 hours. 66 hours total will transfer. All attempted hours count.
At 150 credit hours (a degree plus 30) a student will be charged out of state tuition at theiw own Texas Universities. At 180 credit hours (whether aid was applied for or not or received at all) financial aid ends. There is no excuse for Logan and Logozzo to be putting students into 100-161 credit hours. Many of these students should never have been accepted as music majors and others will want to change majors to one that will lead to a real job. Why should the taxpayers be funding this out of state tuition nightmare!